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<p>As far as 2v L16s go, I've not seen good things with the Trojan
L16 2 v cells. The Rolls version looks like it is one cell
though, not 3 cells paralleled internally like the infamous
Trojan. The voltages sound a bit low, can they give you SG
readings? How come they haven't put those on a maintenance charge
at the warehouse? I've dealt with batteries that have sat
uncharged for quite a while, and not had any issues, but
definitely didn't get outstanding life either. I'd pass the
discount to the customer and let them decide. I'd also offer
another battery choice too. The HUP for instance is going to have
a better price per cycle in the long run, since it has 2100 cycles
to 80% DOD vs 1200 for the Rolls. With the sitting, I'd figure
more like 1000 cycles actual maybe. So the cost of the Rolls
would need to be less than half what an equivalent HUP is. <br>
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<p>Also beware, many customers get fooled by Rolls' amp hour specs.
They list 100 hr discharge rates, so the Rolls can look amazing on
paper. However, the customer really needs to be designing and
comparing at the 20 hr rate. I've made that same mistake, and was
quite disappointed. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/20 2:05 AM, Sindelar Solar
wrote:<br>
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<p>Wrenches,</p>
<p>Here's one I haven't encountered before, and I'm interested in
the range of opinions I may receive.</p>
<p>My battery supplier screwed up, and they admit it. On April 27
I ordered a 24V set of 2V Surrette L16 FLAs for a long time
client; note that these were the client's choice after his
extensive research. The lead time was estimated at 10-12 weeks.
Today I got the news that the distribution center in Reno had
not placed the order, as collective orders for Rolls batteries
were so slow during Covid that they hadn't wanted to ship just
one set. <br>
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<p>I was told that they had a set in the Reno warehouse that they
could bring to Albuquerque that had a manufacture date of
6/26/2019. I was told that at rest the 12 cells showed an
average resting voltage of 2.14 vpc, with the highest at 2.18V
and the lowest at 2.08V.</p>
<p>I was offered them at a discount of ~18% off of my dealer cost.</p>
<p>Should I have any hesitation about accepting and installing a
set that has sat at rest for nearly a year? The alternative is
to start over with the 10-12 week lead time, unless we can
arrange a rush delivery. <br>
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<p>Opinions welcome here, please.</p>
<p>Allan<br>
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