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    <p>Also have a customer with a Leaf that can charge from a dual GVFX
      system.  He uses the 120 vac charger.  Lower charge rates are more
      efficient both for the car's battery and the solar/ battery
      system, so I recommend sticking to the 120 vac chargers if
      possible.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/7/20 6:04 PM, Darryl Thayer wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">I was trying to charge a Nissan Leaf with a ? Iam
        not sure but two VFX i think old age.. i mostly rember having
        the problem.  I think the car  harger had a max of 2kw</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 3:41 PM
          Jay &lt;<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
            noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">I\u2019ve got offgrid  2 clients and they have no
              issues. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">They each have a Bolt and can choose the
              charging rate. They can run it at either power. But only
              use higher power when they have lots of sun. </div>
            <div dir="ltr">Older Stacked vfx and Schneider xw, no
              issues. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">I would expect the SW to work, however it\u2019s
              an odd beast as it\u2019s waveform steps change with load. More
              load, more steps, therefor cleaner so maybe at lower
              charge rate it\u2019s not clean enough. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">As to your issue it could be power factor
              Being really poor. </div>
            <div dir="ltr">Can you tell us what inverter, yea 5 years
              ago is a long time. </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Jay</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Peltz power. </div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">On Jun 7, 2020, at 11:53 AM,
                Darryl Thayer &lt;<a href="mailto:darylsolar1@gmail.com"
                  rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">darylsolar1@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">\ufeff
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                    new roman,serif;font-size:large">I think you said it
                    well, about 5 years ago I tried to charge a car from
                    an off-grid system.  I did not record my events but
                    the inverter had twice the power of the level two
                    charger, yet the inverter would get hot and trip
                    out.  I was told a ferroresonant transformer may
                    help, and it might be different with different
                    cars.  However, I was warned the ferroresonant was
                    to stop input wave problems from arriving at the
                    output not to prevent the output wave problems
                    showing up on the input.   The off-grid customer
                    gave up.</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 7, 2020
                    at 6:36 AM Hilton Dier III &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:hiltondier@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
                      noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">hiltondier@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The
                          issue with EV chargers is that they create a
                          lot of reactive power. Think of it as "slosh"
                          in the waveform. That means that charging at
                          2,000 watts sloshes a lot more than 2kW
                          through the cable, plug, outlet, and from the
                          inverter. If you've got a reasonably good
                          sinewave inverter the charger will like it
                          fine. However, the inverter might not like the
                          charger if you cut things too close. Make sure
                          to have a lot of top end left in your
                          inverter. Always use a transformer based
                          inverter. The SW series has a big chunk of
                          metal in it, so that's good. At 120V the Bolt
                          will only draw 1440 watts max.<br>
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                      <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">An
                          aftermarket Bolt 240V charger can draw up to
                          32 amps. That's 7.7 kW, so too big for an SW.
                          Treat it more like 40 amps. The OEM 120/240
                          EVSE (smart charging cord) that comes with the
                          car can draw 8 or 12 amps at 120V or 12 at
                          240V. Assume that the 8 amps is really 12 and
                          the 12 is really 15 or a bit more. I have seen
                          15 amp plugs and outlets with the hot prong
                          melting plastic around it. The plug on the OEM
                          EVSE is 20A rated but make sure your outlet is
                          as well.</font><br>
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                      <pre cols="72">-- 
Hilton Dier III
Missisquoi River Hydro
Renewable Energy Design
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