<div dir="auto">Wrenches<div dir="auto">Don't let the LBCU scare you as this battery has such a flat SOC line that when it falls off there is not much left in the tank. In addition set the flex net to low SOC at 15% and critical to 10%.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 12:15 PM Sindelar Solar <<a href="mailto:Allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Specifically with Blue Ion, the installation manual recommends
48V as LBCO, but also recommends setting it a bit higher:</p>
<p>"Recommended Low Voltage Disconnect Setting: 48 VDC (~2-10% State
of Charge)<br>
BMU will power down the Blue Ion 2.0 cabinet at 44 VDC (<1%
State of Charge)<br>
Based on system discharge patterns, SoC and voltage correlations
will vary.<br>
We recommend you err on the side of caution with a higher LVD
setting and adjust as necessary.<br>
To prevent a dark start event, we recommend leaving a little
reserve \u201cfuel in the tank\u201d."</p>
<p>I have used 48VDC with success, and had one system indeed shut
down at 44V, leaving 1% left to reboot.<br>
</p>
<p>Allan<br>
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<div>On 3/22/2020 12:44 PM, Ray wrote:<br>
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<p>Blue Ion, and Simpliphi that I know of.<br>
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Remote Solar
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<div>On 3/21/20 2:48 PM, Dave Angelini
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<p>I see what you mean Ray. Sorry I misread your mail. There are
not too many batteries out there that need LBCO above 48V.
Which ones are you talking about please?</p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size:small">Dave Angelini Offgrid
Solar</span></strong></p>
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<p>On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:18:21 -0700, Dave Angelini Offgrid
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<p>Hi Ray,</p>
<p>Which XW? There are 3 now. The old graybox XW defaults at
44V LBCO and the range is 40 to 48V. There also was firmware
back in its day that got older units updated. Schneider
still has the firmware under discontinued products.</p>
<p>XW+ is default 44V and adjustable 36 to 44 vdc.</p>
<p>XW pro is running downstairs and I will take a look. It
would be my guess that it is the same as XW+. I think one
needs to be sure they are in Advanced settings to tweak LBCO
also.</p>
<p>I am not plugging Schneider and have done work for both
Outback and Schneider as well as my clients. Hope this
helps. </p>
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<p>On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:46:21 -0400, Ray <a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><ray@solarray.com></a>
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<p>We've been having good luck with SImpliphi, the pricing
has recently gotten much more competitive. As it's names
states, its simple. Each 3.8 kWh unit has an 80 amp
breaker built into the top, weigh about 75 lbs, and are a
bit smaller than an L16 but with carry handles. We use an
insulated 2 pole combiner block to run all the parallel
conductors to the main 2/0 cable. No monitoring, but they
do have an handy setup guide with recommended settings,
specific for each manufacturer (including Outback). </p>
<p>Note to all: Schneider XW can still not set its LVD
above 48, which basically makes it incompatible with most
Li+ batteries. Their tech support has been abysmal as
well. We're looking forward to them as one of the larger
companies in the business, to put additional resources
into their engineering, and come out with at least a
firmware update to correct this problem. </p>
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Remote Solar
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<div>On 3/20/20 3:59 PM, David Katz
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hello Wrenches,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I am working with some people that
want to use a 20 kw-hour to 30 kw-hour 48 volt
lithium-ion battery with an Outback Radian and Outback
FM charge controllers.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">They are considering using
Discover, Blue-Ion, Battle Born or SimpliPhi
batteries.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Does any one have any
recommendations of which battery functions best with
the Outback system.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</div>
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