<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">We Installed a Kohler 14RES, L.P. & the crank-case breather froze ( the generator was on auto & was in a shelter), and the dip-stick blew out & the generator had just started & set the engine on fire. Oil everywhere.<div>Luckily a worker saw the flames, (this was new Off-Grid construction), and was able to put the fire out.</div><div>The construction workers did not trust the off-grid system anymore (Conext XW6848, which worked exactly as it was designed), and the owner tried and tried to get Kohler to honor the warranty (500 hours), but to no avail.</div><div>He had to buy another generator.<br><div><br><div dir="ltr">Amanda Potter<div>Energy Storage Specialist<br><div>NABCEP <span style="font-size: 13pt;">PV Installation Professional</span></div><div>NYSERDA Eligible PV Installer</div><div><div>Adirondack Battery & Solar, LLC</div><div>Potsdam, NY</div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">(315) 212-2114</span></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 27, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Mac Lewis <maclewis1@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<div dir="ltr">We have had pretty good luck with the 14 kW Kohler which has an off-grid warranty. Its not perfect but it seems solid. We have had a few people with near 5000 hours on them. The controller is a bit of an energy hog but its the best we've found that weighs all of these issues.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:06 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The Honda EU7000i also has it's own remote start kit that plugs into a<br>
socket on the genset. I think it has a 140 foot cable. About as easy to<br>
install as there is. Incredible life and reliability. We do not need a<br>
genset here but many of my clients use these.<br>
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 14:53:09 -0800, Michael Morningstar<br>
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> For small propane generators: Honda eu7000i w/propane conversion from<br>
> GenConnex and 2 wire start kit from GenLine. I\u2019ve installed a couple<br>
dozen.<br>
> 4-8k hours life expectancy. Correct jet is a must for altitudes over<br>
5.5k.<br>
> Alternators are a bit weak so I install a NOKO that\u2019s plugged into the<br>
> generators own receptacle for extra on board charging.<br>
> <br>
> Small Diesel 7.5kw and up, that\u2019s easy. Wrico International. I\u2019ve got<br>
over<br>
> a hundred out there. No standby power draw. Super simple. Bulletproof.<br>
The<br>
> only issues I\u2019ve seen are fuel supply related. 20k hours no problem.<br>
Open<br>
> Frame, so some protection is needed. They are building 7.5kw and up<br>
propane<br>
> generators now. I haven\u2019t used one yet, but will when the right project<br>
> comes around. Their product support is the best. Call them and you will<br>
> speak to one of the principals. They can walk a layperson customer<br>
through<br>
> just about anything I would be called on to service.<br>
> <br>
> The larger low RPM, water cooled propane generators aren\u2019t without their<br>
> problems. Kohler and Cummins/Onan have had problems within 2-3k hours.<br>
They<br>
> just aren\u2019t the same as 10 years ago.<br>
> <br>
> Many dozens of Multi Quips out there. They are good choice. Tech support<br>
> response is generally slow.<br>
> <br>
> Michael<br>
> <br>
>> On Feb 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ray <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> \ufeffI know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be<br>
>> disappointed with the Generac Ecogen. Very high failure rate, and<br>
>> support is poor. Service requires expensive on site service. Also the<br>
no<br>
>> load AC draw and programming setup is just not off grid ready at all. <br>
>> I'm still not seeing any other great choices, though. Here's some<br>
other<br>
>> possibilities:<br>
>> <br>
>> 1) Quality portable, like the Honda EU 7000i or Northstar with Honda<br>
>> motor. Not the best choice especially for autostart, no propane, but<br>
at<br>
>> least they can take it in to the shop if it goes down.<br>
>> <br>
>> 2) Kubota (or MQ) diesel. expensive, and possible cold weather start<br>
>> issues?<br>
>> <br>
>> 3) 20+ kW water cooled, 1800 rpm propane model. Overkill, expensive,<br>
>> but probably will last a really long time.<br>
>> <br>
>> 4) Similar Home standby unit, but Kohler brand. Kohler used to be<br>
>> great, but now a days I'm not so sure.<br>
>> <br>
>> I just can't keep recommending a generator I know has been giving other<br>
>> customers trouble. Any new ideas on this age old problem?<br>
>> <br>
>> -- <br>
>> Ray Walters<br>
>> Remote Solar<br>
>> 303 505-8760<br>
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