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<p>Well, that's certainly a glowing (hot) review for Kohler.
Amazing that with as much progress as we've made with solar, MPPT
controllers, and Li+ batteries, the industry has gone backwards
significantly in the generator department. Kohler used to make a
wonderful little water cooled 1800 rpm model, some of which are
still in service. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/20 5:45 PM, Amanda Potter
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We Installed a Kohler 14RES, L.P. & the crank-case breather
froze ( the generator was on auto & was in a shelter), and the
dip-stick blew out & the generator had just started & set
the engine on fire. Oil everywhere.
<div>Luckily a worker saw the flames, (this was new Off-Grid
construction), and was able to put the fire out.</div>
<div>The construction workers did not trust the off-grid system
anymore (Conext XW6848, which worked exactly as it was
designed), and the owner tried and tried to get Kohler to honor
the warranty (500 hours), but to no avail.</div>
<div>He had to buy another generator.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">We have had pretty good luck with the 14 kW
Kohler which has an off-grid warranty. Its not perfect
but it seems solid. We have had a few people with near
5000 hours on them. The controller is a bit of an
energy hog but its the best we've found that weighs all
of these issues.</div>
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at 4:06 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The Honda EU7000i
also has it's own remote start kit that plugs into a<br>
socket on the genset. I think it has a 140 foot cable.
About as easy to<br>
install as there is. Incredible life and reliability.
We do not need a<br>
genset here but many of my clients use these.<br>
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 14:53:09 -0800, Michael
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> For small propane generators: Honda eu7000i
w/propane conversion from<br>
> GenConnex and 2 wire start kit from GenLine. I\u2019ve
installed a couple<br>
dozen.<br>
> 4-8k hours life expectancy. Correct jet is a must
for altitudes over<br>
5.5k.<br>
> Alternators are a bit weak so I install a NOKO
that\u2019s plugged into the<br>
> generators own receptacle for extra on board
charging.<br>
> <br>
> Small Diesel 7.5kw and up, that\u2019s easy. Wrico
International. I\u2019ve got<br>
over<br>
> a hundred out there. No standby power draw. Super
simple. Bulletproof.<br>
The<br>
> only issues I\u2019ve seen are fuel supply related.
20k hours no problem.<br>
Open<br>
> Frame, so some protection is needed. They are
building 7.5kw and up<br>
propane<br>
> generators now. I haven\u2019t used one yet, but will
when the right project<br>
> comes around. Their product support is the best.
Call them and you will<br>
> speak to one of the principals. They can walk a
layperson customer<br>
through<br>
> just about anything I would be called on to
service.<br>
> <br>
> The larger low RPM, water cooled propane
generators aren\u2019t without their<br>
> problems. Kohler and Cummins/Onan have had
problems within 2-3k hours.<br>
They<br>
> just aren\u2019t the same as 10 years ago.<br>
> <br>
> Many dozens of Multi Quips out there. They are
good choice. Tech support<br>
> response is generally slow.<br>
> <br>
> Michael<br>
> <br>
>> On Feb 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ray <<a
href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ray@solarray.com</a>>
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>> <br>
>> \ufeffI know we have covered this before, but I
just continue to be<br>
>> disappointed with the Generac Ecogen. Very
high failure rate, and<br>
>> support is poor. Service requires expensive
on site service. Also the<br>
no<br>
>> load AC draw and programming setup is just
not off grid ready at all. <br>
>> I'm still not seeing any other great choices,
though. Here's some<br>
other<br>
>> possibilities:<br>
>> <br>
>> 1) Quality portable, like the Honda EU 7000i
or Northstar with Honda<br>
>> motor. Not the best choice especially for
autostart, no propane, but<br>
at<br>
>> least they can take it in to the shop if it
goes down.<br>
>> <br>
>> 2) Kubota (or MQ) diesel. expensive, and
possible cold weather start<br>
>> issues?<br>
>> <br>
>> 3) 20+ kW water cooled, 1800 rpm propane
model. Overkill, expensive,<br>
>> but probably will last a really long time.<br>
>> <br>
>> 4) Similar Home standby unit, but Kohler
brand. Kohler used to be<br>
>> great, but now a days I'm not so sure.<br>
>> <br>
>> I just can't keep recommending a generator I
know has been giving other<br>
>> customers trouble. Any new ideas on this age
old problem?<br>
>> <br>
>> -- <br>
>> Ray Walters<br>
>> Remote Solar<br>
>> 303 505-8760<br>
>> <br>
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