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<p class="MsoNormal">Wes & all \u2013 I want to clarify my prior post<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If off-grid, the rule of thumb is no more than 2W PV per W of Sunny Island. So that would be up to 46kW PV for 23kW SI capacity \u2013 there is no concern of backfeeding the SI relay when off grid, even with generator.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But if grid tied, the relay limit comes into play, and the 26.9kW PV size limit is correct. But to clarify, when grid-tied the SI does not discharge battery to meet load, it lets the grid do that along with PV. Not built for peak shaving!
When this setup is in backup mode, then it will provide battery power along with PV to offset load.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So it does really depend if this would be an offgrid setup or if the goal is peak shaving for a grid-tied system.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>wes kennedy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 21, 2020 2:38 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">This latest opportunity is for an agricultural building that peaks at 75KW. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Less excited about my Schneider and Outback systems due to callbacks and hassles. a bit more expensive but worth it IMHO.<br>
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