<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Chris,</div><div dir="auto">Thanks for the info and ideas. So far the eGauge makes more sense because it can monitor DC loads as well as AC. When you set up a tablet for a client, are you able to set up a standard layout for basic info to be displayed? The eGauge has a lot of info and flexibility, which is great, but it is not the most intuitive interface. Often there can be too much info and complexity for the end user to sort through easily.</div><div dir="auto">Howie</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Howie Michaelson<br>Sun Catcher<br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer\u2122<br>Solar Electric & Heat Pumps Systems Sales & Service<br>802-272-0004<br><br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 8:03 AM Chris Sparadeo <<a href="mailto:sparadeo.chris@gmail.com">sparadeo.chris@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Hi Howie,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Neurio makes a $200-ish product very comparable to the egauge. This also happens to be the meter used on the Powerwall 2. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://www.neur.io/energy-monitor/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.neur.io/energy-monitor/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My understanding is that it has a limited amount of CT inputs, but for monitoring a handful of circuits/sources this should work fine. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hear your complaint about the egauge not having a great user interface on the device. What I have done to combate this in the past has been to buy a cheap tablet (the Amazon fire goes for around $50) and install it co-located with the egauge so that info is readily available and the homeowner can get meaningful data at the device without having to be tech savvy. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Chris </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:27 PM Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Wrenches, Howie</div><div>Egauge is a great product with both AC and DC CT's from very small to over 2500 amps, you can order what ever you need that fits your application, I have used several DC CT's for the purpose of testing extended use of new products, the website is included and field programmable and can be re-set from application to application or as demands change.</div><div>Jerry</div><div>NABCEP PV Inspector <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:16 AM Howie Michaelson <<a href="mailto:Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi All,</div><div>I am looking for a good choice for a meter that I can use for the following circumstances:</div><div><ul><li>Legacy Off-grid and Battery Backup systems that don't have very useful on board metering in order to get an accurate reading of loads, generation (solar, wind, generator, etc.), power in from and out to the grid</li><li>Potential new battery based installs where the above info is not easily ascertainable</li><li>Troubleshooting systems where there are apparent discrepancies between client expectations/understanding and actual circumstances<br></li><li>Metering of both AC and DC loads and generation<br></li><li>Metering capable of Internet connection for remote monitoring and data collection</li><li>Potential for leaving in/selling to client if they are interested in the info long term</li></ul><div>My goto meter in the past has been the Trimetric, but that doesn't give me enough data for real troubleshooting and data collection. I have for years run into circumstances where this information gathered over a period of time would be incredibly useful. Being able to see info remotely and looking at history would be even more useful. Having started using Blue Ion batteries that have incorporated an eGauge in their system, I have become familiar with some of the eGauge capabilities. I can see how having one on my service truck with multiple AC and DC CTs that I can leave on site for a period time would often be very useful, although a bit complicated to set up for short term analysis. I also don't know that it has a local display for those not computer savvy. And it is a bit pricey for simple systems that I'd could potentially sell to the client once they get an idea of how helpful it could be.</div><div><br></div><div>What have folks used with what degree of success? I'm open to all suggestions and ideas/critiques.<br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Howie</div><div>
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