<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">My question is WHY do folks still install these steel cased Pain the A*& BBs when we have 2 volt cells (UnigiII/Surrette/Crown)that have up to 2400AH @20hr rate and are easily moved by hand, fork truck, shovel! 2 volt cells is always the way to go.<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Ray <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" class="">ray@solarray.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">We've used an engine hoist before, but for tight spaces, we built
a rig out of unistrut with a small block and tackle. Come along
can be hard to use, and puts dangerous metal parts over the
battery.</p><p class=""><img src="http://www.hupsolar.com/images/HUP-batteries-are-easier-to-install.jpg" alt="HUP batteries are easier to install" class=""></p><p class="">I've since gone to a winch system, and also try to move the
batteries on rollers without taking the cells out.<br class="">
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battery bank. Engine hoist worked like a charm and my back
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just did that a month ago, and it went amazingly smoothly.
Earlier, on a similar HUP replacement, I told the (absentee)
client that I would rent an engine hoist to lift the cells
out of the steel cases, and he advised me that it would cost
him less labor and travel if I bought one of the Chinese
engine hoists from Harbor Freight for $90 and just kept it.
Turned out to be a good application for CCC (thanks, Bob-O).
A concrete floor, the engine hoist, a simple hand truck and
a strong assistant to share the load made light work of both
removal and installation - all 4,000 pounds of it, one 200
lb. cell at a time... so I went dancing that evening. <br class="">
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battery cases to change-out the pack (no option, bad
access). Anyone ever had problems come-a-longing from above
the first cell and if so, what's the solution?...and what
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