<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hey William,<div><br></div><div>That exact unit is actually where I started this journey but PG&E will not accept that Solarready residential unit because it\u2019s a commercial account and anything over 200 A in a commercial account requires a CT cabinet. So to avoid CTs we need to separate out the 200 amp meter socket.</div><div><br></div><div>I could feed that unit with 200 Amos after a 200 A Meter\Main but the combined cost would be high. </div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div><div><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:59 AM, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jeff:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Would a class 320, solar-ready, meter/main combo be approved for this commercial application? Here is a <a href="https://www.downloads.siemens.com/download-center/download?BTLV_44465">link</a> to a product we have used in residential applications. It offers through-the-jaws metering at 400 amps peak, 320 amps continuous.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">William</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Miller Solar</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">805-438-5600</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/"><span style="color:blue">www.millersolar.com</span></a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">CA Lic. 773985</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Clearwater<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarReady Service Panel vs adding Supply Side connection?</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Hey Jay,<br><br>Yes so you were on to it - but with the addition of having that downstream of a separate 200 AMP meter box and 200 A Main that works :) Otherwise PG&E would call it a 400 Amp service which for commercial accounts means having to have CTs for the metering.<br><br>Thanks!,<br><br>Jeff<br><br>Jay wrote on 10/17/19 3:38 PM:<br><br><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">What about installing a 200 amp breaker in the 400 amp buss box? </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We talk a lot about doing it for smaller boxes, is there a reason it won\u2019t work here?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jay</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Peltz power</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Oct 17, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Glenn Burt <a href="mailto:Glenn.burt@glbcc.com"><Glenn.burt@glbcc.com></a> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">\ufeff<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hi Jeff,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Seems to me if allowed in your jurisdiction, you might be best served by installing a new 200A fused service disconnect ahead of the existing main service panel. Or even a 400A one to allow for additional work inside (CT\u2019s), then perform a supply side connection in it. Some manufacturers of switchgear have an option for lugs that accept multiple conductors, so no piercing of conductors needs to happen.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Good luck,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Glenn</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> RE-wrenches <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Clearwater<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 17, 2019 3:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] SolarReady Service Panel vs adding Supply Side connection?</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Esteemed Wrenches,<br><br>I am in need of changing out an existing 200 Amp service entrance in order to accommodate a bus capable of handling a a 200 Amp Solar backfeed (41 KW system) . <br><br>PG&E is upgrading the transformer to handle the backfeed but when I proposed a Siemens SolarReady 400 Amp service entrance they couldn't approve it cause since the building is a shop - they classify it as commercial and require a panel that can handle CTs when there is a 400 Amp service involved.<br><br>Anyone else faced with this have solutions? What is the cheapest equipment I can provide to satisfy all requirements?<br><br>We don't need to upgrade the existing 200 amp service entrance equipment for load purposes - only to meet the bus requirements of backfeed.<br><br>Would it be cheaper and easier to use the existing (or new) 200 Amp residential panel - not call it a 400 Amp upgrade but simply add a 200 Amp Supply Side Connection? Suggested equipment to do that in the most economical manner?<br><br>Any help well appreciated!<br><br>Jeff <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>~~~~~~~~~~~</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Clearwater<br>Village Power Design<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-clearwater-0622a312/">linkedin</a> <br><a href="http://www.villagepowerdesign.com">www.villagepowerdesign.com</a><br>cell - <span class="postbox-detected-content"><span style="color:#505050">413-559-9763</span></span><span style="color:#505050"><br><span class="postbox-detected-content">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br><br><br></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</pre><pre> </pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:</pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></pre><pre> </pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre> </pre><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> </span></p></div>
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