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<p>I too have a few Sunfrosts that are still with happy customers.
We just had too many failures to justify the high cost overall.
On the super efficient fridge topic: I use the Backwoods Solar
deep freeze conversion kit, which gets equally amazing energy
numbers for about $500 total. It just uses a standard, off the
shelf chest style deep freeze, with a thermostat that operates it
at 40 deg F. If anything goes wrong, nothing on the freezer is
altered, so warranty and local service are still available. </p>
<p><a
href="https://www.backwoodssolar.com/products/appliances/refrigerators-freezers/external-thermostat">https://www.backwoodssolar.com/products/appliances/refrigerators-freezers/external-thermostat</a></p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/19 1:55 PM,
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this with my personal experience. <br>
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perhaps this is an exception, but my 24 year old sunfrost
RF-12 is still going strong, 100% problem free... <br>
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and it gets better efficiency than advertised: <br>
it uses 390 watt hours/ day = 142 kWh/year<br>
<br>
while solar pv is less expensive than it used to be it is
still made with hydrocarbon powered mining and manufacturing.
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call me "old school", but solar powering waste is not green.<br>
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todd</p>
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On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:24pm, "Ray"
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size:
12pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">I second Jerry's
comments. Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC
fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc. Just tons of trouble for very
little benefit. Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and
frankly they weren't as efficient as advertised. The closer
off grid clients can be to normal, the better. That means
normal wiring, normal appliances, etc. Then you aren't on
the hook for all these other items. I hate to say it, but
they just are not as well built or thought out, as main
stream appliances, and the customer (after many bitter
experiences) will eventually get normal equipment. </p>
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12pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">One other thing: plan on
adding a LVD with a big contactor if you do have DC
equipment or you'll ruin the batteries with this little
detour down the "road less traveled"....</p>
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<div>I have been in the renewable industry for a very many
years and l dont quite understand why someone would
spend way to much on a refrigerator or washer or even
range when they have their own issues. I have always
suggested that my customers to buy a name brand
machine, efficiency always a factor of course. Then
invest in more batteries, modules, inverter etc.
instead. In the long game it's a better investment with
fewer headaches. Granted in some cases a propane
refrigerator might be better but this is very seldom.
But that's just me.</div>
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<div>Hello Wrenches,<br>
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For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing
machine was the Staber. I've read of complaints about
cheap plastic parts breaking. The price tag on this
machine is very high for something that isn't
mechanically solid. <br>
<br>
Are there any good options for an affordable, low
power, low water usage, resilient, repairable machine
with a minimum of electronics on the market? <br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Drake <br>
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Drake Chamberlin<br>
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