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    <p>I second Jerry's comments.  Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC
      fridges, DC fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc.  Just tons of trouble for
      very little benefit.  Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and
      frankly they weren't as efficient as advertised.  The closer off
      grid clients can be to normal, the better.  That means normal
      wiring, normal appliances, etc.  Then you aren't on the hook for
      all these other items.  I hate to say it, but they just are not as
      well built or thought out, as main stream appliances, and the
      customer (after many bitter experiences) will eventually get
      normal equipment.  <br>
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    <p>One other thing: plan on adding a LVD with a big contactor if you
      do have DC equipment or you'll ruin the batteries with this little
      detour down the "road less traveled"....<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/19 9:40 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Wrenches
        <div dir="auto">I have been in the renewable industry for a very
          many years and l dont quite  understand why someone would
          spend way to much on a refrigerator or washer or even range
          when they have their own issues. I have always suggested that
          my customers to buy a name brand machine,  efficiency always a
          factor of course.  Then invest in more batteries, modules,
          inverter etc. instead. In the long game it's a better
          investment with fewer headaches. Granted in some cases a
          propane refrigerator might be better but this is very seldom.
          But that's just me.</div>
        <div dir="auto">Jerry</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 7:13 AM
          Drake &lt;<a
            href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org"
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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            Hello Wrenches,<br>
            <br>
            For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine
            was the
            Staber. I've read of complaints about cheap plastic parts
            breaking. The
            price tag on this machine is very high for something that
            isn't
            mechanically solid. <br>
            <br>
            Are there any good options for an affordable, low power, low
            water usage,
            resilient, repairable machine with a minimum of electronics
            on the
            market? <br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            <br>
            Drake <br>
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            Drake Chamberlin<br>
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              CO License 3773<br>
              NABCEP Certified Solar PV <br>
              740-448-7328<br>
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              noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://athens-electric.com/</a>
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