<font face="georgia" size="3"><p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size: 12pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">ahem... i need to correct this with my personal experience. <br /><br />perhaps this is an exception, but my 24 year old sunfrost RF-12 is still going strong, 100% problem free... <br /><br />and it gets better efficiency than advertised: <br />it uses 390 watt hours/ day = 142 kWh/year<br /><br />while solar pv is less expensive than it used to be it is still made with hydrocarbon powered mining and manufacturing. <br /><br />call me "old school", but solar powering waste is not green.<br /><br />todd</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size: 12pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">I second Jerry's comments. Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc. Just tons of trouble for very little benefit. Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and frankly they weren't as efficient as advertised. The closer off grid clients can be to normal, the better. That means normal wiring, normal appliances, etc. Then you aren't on the hook for all these other items. I hate to say it, but they just are not as well built or thought out, as main stream appliances, and the customer (after many bitter experiences) will eventually get normal equipment. </p>
<p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: georgia; font-size: 12pt; overflow-wrap: break-word;">One other thing: plan on adding a LVD with a big contactor if you do have DC equipment or you'll ruin the batteries with this little detour down the "road less traveled"....</p>
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<div>I have been in the renewable industry for a very many years and l dont quite understand why someone would spend way to much on a refrigerator or washer or even range when they have their own issues. I have always suggested that my customers to buy a name brand machine, efficiency always a factor of course. Then invest in more batteries, modules, inverter etc. instead. In the long game it's a better investment with fewer headaches. Granted in some cases a propane refrigerator might be better but this is very seldom. But that's just me.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 7:13 AM Drake <<a rel="noreferrer" href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org" target="_blank">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Hello Wrenches,<br /><br /> For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine was the Staber. I've read of complaints about cheap plastic parts breaking. The price tag on this machine is very high for something that isn't mechanically solid. <br /><br /> Are there any good options for an affordable, low power, low water usage, resilient, repairable machine with a minimum of electronics on the market? <br /><br /> Thanks,<br /><br /> Drake <br /><br /> Drake Chamberlin<br /><em>Athens Electric LLC<br /> OH License 44810<br /> CO License 3773<br /> NABCEP Certified Solar PV <br /> 740-448-7328<br /></em><a rel="noreferrer
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