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<div style="direction: ltr;">Hi August and all,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">In addition to modules with UL6703 mating connectors, UL1703 has always allowed modules to be listed with only leads (no connectors attached), or with no leads at all (old school J-box). Originally leads with connectors were added
to modules in the field, connected to J-boxes with bolted terminals. Factory installed leads and connectors were added by module manufacturers for convenience, not because of any Code or UL requirement. There is no defensible reason for a module manufacturer
to void their warranty if a connector is cut off and replaced by an appropriate connector or splice. The word appropriate is key here since there are some modules that use proprietary connectors and even cables (ie Ac modules). </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">This issue is particularly important for any connector that has any damage. How could a module manufacturer suggest that a qualified person not be allowed to replace a damaged part like this? Would they replace the entire module
for you? Assuming not, would they say the module should be tossed just because of this? There is no logic in the belief that replacing a connector should violate any warranty or listing, provided the person performing the work is qualified and they are using
appropriate (typ. listed) parts. In fact I believe this should be part of a modules normal maintenance procedures that should be documented in the modules manual. If it was, that would remove any concerns over impacting the UL listing. Without this procedure
being documented in the module manual, you need to get approval from the manufacturer, which some have provided in my experience. I believe if more folks kept asking this would become easier. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">All that said please buy good quality connectors and train your people to install them correctly, with the right (and calibrated) tools. You need good quality controls when making any electrical connection but our mating (plug
and play) PV connectors are particularly important since they operate under such demanding conditions of duty cycle and environmental conditions. Also never mix manufacturers or types unless this combination is called out in the NRTL listing (intermatability).</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Cheers,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Jason Fisher</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 9, 2019 11:46 AM<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>August Goers<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jason - I'm curious about your statement on cutting off module connectors. Can you elaborate?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:52 AM Jason Fisher (STC) <<a href="mailto:stc.jason@gmail.com">stc.jason@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kent, I dont see an answer to Brians question about the LG modules original connector configuration. Were these modules actually factory shipped with one H4 and one MC4 connector on different polarities? That would be bizarre. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Otherwise to back up Brians point about Intermatability, this is a UL 6703 term that was added in NEC2020 to specifically address this question, how can installers have confidence when they are asked to connect two different manufacturers
mating connectors. Bottom line is dont connect mismatched connectors, ever. Only connect different manufacturers, and/or different models of mating connectors if at least one of the companies produces proof of evaluation of that combination by an NRTL.
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a very important issue so my advice to Wrenches is to keep firm and dont budge on this one. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also curious if you all still think you cant cut off module connectors? We need to correct that if so. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Missing the point, yes they are compatible but as we have seen in the real world there are issues. This can give module and micro inverter manufacturers an out regarding failures and responsibility </p>
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