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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>August, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We have had numerous customers successfully reach out and been given revised warranties from module manufactures, when connectors which were on the module leads could not be procured.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Cheers, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>Bryan Norkunas</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:bryan@pv-cables.com">bryan@pv-cables.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=140 height=140 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D566EB.0DFF98E0" alt="Description: Description: PV-Cables_Logo_Transparent_Bkgnd_140x140"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>PV-Cables Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>1155 Redway Drive</span><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>PO Box 2562<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>Redway, CA 95560<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'>(707) 923-3000 office<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.pv-cables.com/">www.pv-cables.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#00497E'><img border=0 width=25 height=23 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D566EB.0DFF98E0" alt="Description: Description: cid:image002.jpg@01CD22E8.974B6470"> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:navy'>Please print only if necessary.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:black'>NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the original message.</span><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>August Goers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 09, 2019 6:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] connector mismatch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jason - I'm curious about your statement on cutting off module connectors. Can you elaborate?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>August<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Luminalt<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:52 AM Jason Fisher (STC) <<a href="mailto:stc.jason@gmail.com">stc.jason@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kent, I don\u2019t see an answer to Brian\u2019s question about the LG module\u2019s original connector configuration. We\u2019re these modules actually factory shipped with one H4 and one MC4 connector on different polarities? That would be bizarre. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Otherwise to back up Brian\u2019s point about Intermatability, this is a UL 6703 term that was added in NEC2020 to specifically address this question, how can installers have confidence when they are asked to connect two different manufacturer\u2019s mating connectors. Bottom line is don\u2019t connect \u201cmismatched\u201d connectors, ever. Only connect different manufacturers, and/or different models of mating connectors if at least one of the companies produces proof of evaluation of that combination by an NRTL. Warning that this is rare at this point (those wouldn\u2019t therefore be \u201cmismatched\u201d). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a very important issue so my advice to Wrenches is to keep firm and don\u2019t budge on this one. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also curious if you all still think you can\u2019t cut off module connectors? We need to correct that if so. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jason Fisher<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="gmail-m_7138129606260105297divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> on behalf of Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] connector mismatch <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brian <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Missing the point, yes they are compatible but as we have seen in the real world there are issues. This can give module and micro inverter manufacturers an out regarding failures and responsibility <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jerry<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 1:41 AM Brian Mehalic <<a href="mailto:brian@solarenergy.org" target="_blank">brian@solarenergy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I don\u2019t think \u201csome white paper\u201d is sufficient based on Code requirements, UL standards (6703), and verified field failures. Also see 2020 NEC® 690.33(C) - now requiring intermatability. <o:p></o:p></p><div id="gmail-m_7138129606260105297m_-318506501290202540m_1919283445577569262m_-4519548902895815155AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal>Brian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 4, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wrenches <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Per some white papers connectors are interchangeable, this being said l have had arc issues as a result. FYI there are knock-offs out there to.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jerry<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 1:42 PM Brian Mehalic <<a href="mailto:brian@solarenergy.org" target="_blank">brian@solarenergy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are you saying each module has, for example, a positive factory H4 lead and a negative factory MC4 lead? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I definitely know of H4 problems, both mated with H4s and mismatched. <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brian Mehalic <br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installation Professional\u2122 R031508-59<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>National Electrical Code® CMP-4 Member<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(520) 204-6639<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Solar Energy International<br><a href="http://www.solarenergy.org" target="_blank">http://www.solarenergy.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>SEI Professional Services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.seisolarpros.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>http://www.s</span>eisolarpros.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 1:22 PM Kent Osterberg <<a href="mailto:kent@coveoregon.com" target="_blank">kent@coveoregon.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I've recently been looking for the cause of random power drop offs to <br>zero in an Enphase M215 system with LG260 PV module that was installed <br>in 2013. Just one inverter in a system of fourteen has been doing this. <br>Enphase suggested moving the inverter to a different PV module and sure <br>enough doing that proved the problem wasn't with the inverter. <br>Intermittent zero output was being caused by the PV module. In making <br>the inverter/module change I found that all the LG 260 modules in this <br>system have one MC4 connector and one H4 connector. At present I'm <br>convinced the mismatched connector is the actual cause of the problem. <br>Anyone else ever notice find PV modules with mixed MC4 and H4 connectors?<br><br>Kent Osterberg<br>Blue Mountain Solar<br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" 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