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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I have a ECOGEN that ran well for a couple of years as originally setup. Then it began having problems with management of the extra oil reservoir (the engine would become flooded with oil and it would belch smoke). I gave up trying to repair that out of frustration and have been running it for the past two years with just the engine oil. I eliminated the extra oil res and it has not caused any problems since. I change the oil at 100 hours now rather than the 500 hour interval the original setup called for.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dave Palumbo</p><p class=MsoNormal>Hyde Park, VT</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com">Maverick Brown</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:57 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mine died from brushes , I guess catching fire, and that was precipitated by an oil leak on the upper oil hose. The crimp-on fitting was allowing oil to bypass the clamp, spray on the engine and generator head. There is vent hole right on the top of generator head in a perfect place below the oil tube/air intake to breath in the oil and send it through the generator head. Just lovely. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If yours is still working, I\u2019ll send you a photo and a note to make a correction to the oil line. <o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maverick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 27, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Chris Mason <<a href="mailto:cometenergysystems@gmail.com">cometenergysystems@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When you say it died, what was the problem?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:43 PM Jason Jackson <<a href="mailto:Jason@hakaienergysolutions.com">Jason@hakaienergysolutions.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Same experience here in Canada. We installed two Ecogens last year, against our better judgement. Both were dead in under 12 months. One was rebuilt under warranty and promptly died again, no coverage in that case. Another was refused warranty as it has been used (sparingly) as prime power during construction, prior to being connected to the inverter system. No warranty if it's not connected to an inverter system on day 1! That model was promptly pulled from the market according to our local ASC, and has been replaced with something similar apparently. <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt 9.0pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><br><a href="http://www.hakaienergysolutions.com?utm_source=appogee&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=signature" title=""HAKAI Energy Solutions Website" t "><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=320 height=132 style='width:3.3333in;height:1.375in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://www.google.com/a/hakaienergysolutions.com/images/logo.gif" alt=hakaienergysolutions.com></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='border:none;border-left:dashed lightgrey 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 13.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Jason Jackson<span style='color:black'>, Energy Systems Designer</span></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Ph: 888 604 3128 xt. 101<b><span style='color:#F26522'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><a href="http://www.hakaienergy.ca?utm_source=appogee&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=signature" target="_blank">www.hakaienergy.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 2:07 PM <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-request@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-owner@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-owner@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..."<br>When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines from the quoted message.<br> Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)<br> 2. solar inter row shading (jay)<br> 3. Re: solar inter row shading (Chris Mason)<br> 4. Re: solar inter row shading (Ray)<br> 5. Re: solar inter row shading (William Miller)<br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Dana <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a>><br>To: "'RE-wrenches'" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:42:35 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k<br>Generwrecked strikes again! After 3 fires in the controllers & 2 more engine meltdowns due to oil loss I would not touch a wreck.<br><br><br><br>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. <br>C - 208.721.7003 <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank">dana@solarwork.com</a><br>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<br>NABCEP # 051112-136 <a href="http://www.solarwork.com" target="_blank">www.solarwork.com</a><br>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" <br><span style='font-family:Symbol'>P</span> Please consider the environment before printing this email.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> On Behalf Of Maverick Brown<br>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 11:41 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k<br><br>Wrenches<br><br>Any guidance on getting warranty claim approved when their denial reason is the generic \u201cunsafe\u201d installation? There isn\u2019t anything unsafe about the 1.5 year install that I can see. The ECOGEN is connected to an Outback Radian. <br><br>Generator has 950 hours on it before the brushes melted down from being exposed to engine oil. <br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Maverick<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>><br>To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:59:06 -0700<br>Subject: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading<br>HI All,<br><br>I\u2019m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?<br>I can\u2019t find any.<br><br>RBI used to have one, it was really slick.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>jay<br><br>peltz power<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Chris Mason <<a href="mailto:cometenergysystems@gmail.com" target="_blank">cometenergysystems@gmail.com</a>><br>To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:03:23 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sketchup with Skelion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:41 PM jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>HI All,<br><br>I\u2019m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?<br>I can\u2019t find any.<br><br>RBI used to have one, it was really slick.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>jay<br><br>peltz power<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a 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class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Chris Mason</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666'>Solar systems designer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666'>Generac Generators Industrial technician</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Comet Systems Ltd DBA Comet Solar<br>Anguilla Cell 264.235.5670</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>WhatsApp <span style='color:#666666'>264.235.5670</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Skype: netconcepts</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'><a href="http://www.cometenergysystems.com/" target="_blank">www.cometsolar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Ray <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank">ray@solarray.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:15:29 -0600<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>Here's a cool row spacing sheet that the Wrenches' own William Miller provided us a few years back. He might have a newer version, but this should do what you need, I think. <o:p></o:p></p><pre>Ray Walters</pre><pre>Remote Solar</pre><pre>303 505-8760</pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 7/26/19 6:03 PM, Chris Mason wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sketchup with Skelion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:41 PM jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>HI All,<br><br>I\u2019m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?<br>I can\u2019t find any.<br><br>RBI used to have one, it was really slick.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>jay<br><br>peltz power<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Change listserver email address & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out or update participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Chris Mason</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666'>Solar systems designer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666'>Generac Generators Industrial technician</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Comet Systems Ltd DBA Comet Solar<br>Anguilla Cell 264.235.5670</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>WhatsApp <span style='color:#666666'>264.235.5670</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Skype: netconcepts</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'><a href="http://www.cometenergysystems.com/" target="_blank">www.cometsolar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:</pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:</pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" target="_blank">william@millersolar.com</a>><br>To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:48:14 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading<br>Jay:<br><br>I have a spreadsheet on our website that might do the trick. It gets complicated with non-flat ground and rows that are not due east-west. It\u2019s been a long time since I used it but give it a try. <br><br><a href="http://MillerSolar.com">MillerSolar.com</a>, find resources tab. <br><br>William<br><br>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:59 PM, jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> HI All,<br>> <br>> I\u2019m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?<br>> I can\u2019t find any.<br>> <br>> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> jay<br>> <br>> peltz power<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br>> <br>> List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>> <br>> Change listserver email address & settings:<br>> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>> 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