<div dir="auto">Hi i have only worked on two so disregard if i am off track. Bob Gudgel of Midnite solar helped me with ideas. It seemed to me the water keeps flowing and if no load the turbine went fastest. As the load increased the turbine slowed down, but generated more power until the turbine was overloaded. Then the power dropped. It is difficult to MPPT a turbine. Again Bob can help here. But a turbine larger than the load can load follow. I believe the Classic CC can be programed to load follow this goes back more than 10 years<div dir="auto"> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 10:24 PM Mac Lewis <<a href="mailto:maclewis1@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">maclewis1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't really want to mess with changing the hydro, I'm more interested in alleviating the manual transfer between power systems. I'm planning on putting a power quality recorder/oscilloscope so that I understand what type of power we are working with. Its semi-large (from my perspective) because I believe that they transmit at 11.4 kV and step it back down. That tells me that the penstock is long (and expensive). In some ways my post is premature, but the big question is can you have a largish hydro feed a load direct without storage (maybe there is a dynamic load bank or something like that? I like the idea of feeding batteries direct and letting the inverters make good quality power but I'm ignorant about hydro on this scale.<div><br></div><div>I appreciate the ideas</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 9:11 PM Jerry Shafer <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">This is from the web and its metric so dont get messed up. You need big GPM and big head (pressure) yes it is multiplied but 1 × anything is still 1, 2 x is not much better.<div dir="auto">Do you have any values yet, elevation change, </div><div dir="auto">Jerry</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:00 PM <<a href="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">toddcory@finestplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="georgia" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:georgia;font-size:12pt">isn't there a formula like head in feet X gpm divided by 10 = approximate wattage?<br><br>todd</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:georgia;font-size:12pt"><br><br>On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:10pm, "Jerry Shafer" <<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>> said:<br><br></p>
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<div>You need head (pressure) and GPM, clean degree free, no silt, a catch basin to stall the water, big pipe long run, try to keep the rollercoasters out, (rises), and no 90's, that's just to start. Low head waterwheels can produce lots of power to but you need a river of water.
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