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Another snag was that in NY it required a petition to the Public Service Commission to allow master metering. There were certain contracts that needed to be in place for the protection of the end customer. (i.e., what if the coop fails to pay some bills, but the end customers are paying the coop. Then it is the end customer that gets screwed over when the power gets cut off.) They also had a set list of approved meters that can be used for submetering. We were planning on using eGauges, but ended up needing to put in an approved glass meter as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div>Dave<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-3129902992364541235gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Dave Tedeyan, PE</font></b></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><img src="https://www.taitem.com/signatures/logo.png"><br></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">110 South Albany Street</font><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> | Ithaca, NY 14850</span></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">o. <u>607.277.1118 x121</u> f. 607.277.2119</font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.taitem.com" target="_blank">www.taitem.com</a></font></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">Solar </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">\u2022</span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:12.5pt;line-height:17.8333px"> </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">Sustainability </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">\u2022 </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">Energy </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">\u2022 </span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px">Design</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;line-height:14.2667px"><span style="font-size:13.3333px">B-Corporation Best for the World 2018 Honoree<br></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 4:03 PM Christopher Warfel <<a href="mailto:cwarfel@entech-engineering.com" target="_blank">cwarfel@entech-engineering.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Good point Jeff, HOA could all of a sudden be a commercial demand
account. I think you have to wait for PSEG to tell you what they
allow. Every situation seems unique, so it is difficult to say
what is typical. They may be served by multiple service points.
PSEG has that information. I think it will save you a lot of
running around if you get into a discussion with the Customer
Service of Distribution Engineering sides of the company. If it
is served by one xfmr than the meter solution would be to meter
onthe secondary side. But again, Jeff brings up a good point.
PSEG should be able to combine all 200 accounts into a single
account for analysis. They can tell you if demand charges would
apply to the master account, and if by increased kWh billed in the
aggregate, if that would push you into a lower kWh tariff rate.
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<div>Chris, all meters are owned by the same entity (the HOA).
We have a call into the utility (PSE&G). We do not have
experience in this area so any advice you may have on how to
be successful in this endeavour based on your time on the
other side of the curtain would be appreciated. Would an
entity like this (a community with ~200 homes) typically be
served by a single transformer or multiple? If a single then
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the 15 meter circuits to a pad-mounted panelboard / main meter
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<p>I used to work for a utility and it is utility
dependent. The key I think is whether all the
submetering customers are actually owned by the same
entity. For example, a commercial complex may have
several building on site, each submetered. The whole
complex could be master metered at the service delivery
point. If so, master metering will save in several
ways, most notably the monthly charge, but demand
charges and possibly a reduction in the energy charge
depending upon the tariff can also occur. The utility
should be able to run the analysis for you. I would
request from the utility the details on master metering
at the location. This will quickly get you into their
domain/processes. Unless you have experience in this
area, it can be difficult to calculate the
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the process of consolidating utility electric meters
for a client? We're talking to an HOA that has 15
meters throughout the community for common area
loads (clubhouse, pool pump, lighting, fountain...)
so they're paying a fixed monthly charge on each in
addition to energy and demand charges.
Consolidating to a single master meter (possibly
with sub-metering) would likely lower their costs on
its own, and (more importantly?) would improve the
value proposition for a PV+ESS installation. We're
not sure if the community is served by a single or
multiple transformers yet, but if it is just one
then the process should be straightforward from a
technical standpoint. The interwebs tell me that
some providers (seems like mostly co-ops) are open
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