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We have mixtures of Outback, Midnite, Blue Sky, and old Trace equipment. Never any issues with electronics related to altitude. Actually the altitude related system issues are generator derating, and array output exceeding STC ratings on really clear cold days due to the thin atmosphere. The third issue would be installers not being able to catch our breath after jogging back to the truck. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ray Walters<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Remote Solar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>303 505-8760<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On 4/11/19 3:39 PM, Dan Fink wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Hi Chris; I am deeply concerned about this as nearly 100% of the systems I install are at 8000 ft (2500m) or higher. I've never had a problem with warranty claims to Outback or Schneider up to this time. If this is a "new thing" I'd really like to know about it, on list or off. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>The alitude de-rate stuff seems to involve dialectric ratings on the transformer coils, and low air density for cooling. I think that's all in ANSI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br clear=all style='mso-special-character:line-break'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-alt:none windowtext 0in;padding:0in'>Dan Fink</span></font><font size=3><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal 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style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>~ Small Wind Installer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>NABCEP PV Associate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>Executive Director, Buckville Energy Consulting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'><a href="mailto:dan.fink@greendustrialtraining.com" target="_blank">dan.fink@greendustrialtraining.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><font size=2 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#222222'>970-672-4342<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 1:28 PM <<a href="mailto:chris@oasismontana.com" target="_blank">chris@oasismontana.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi folks:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I am curious as to how many of you sell/install battery/inverter systems at high altitudes? Have you had any particular issues with them? Last year we discovered (in a mostly costly fashion) that Schneider inverters (and also Outback) are not warranted above 6500 ft. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Magnum inverters are warranted to 15,000 ft max altitude. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chris Daum<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Oasis Montana Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>406-777-4309 or 4321<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>406-777-4309 fax<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal 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