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<p>I think the bigger question here is this: Has anyone had
connection failures of any sort using other crimpers? i use an
Amphenol tool and crimps, and they have always worked fine with a
variety of modules. I can see Enphase requiring the expensive
tool, because it covers their liability bacon, and the cost isn't
coming out of their pocket. The only failed connector I came
across was a horrible cheap chinese copy of an MC connector on a
little E bay RV system I trouble shooted. They used what looked
like heavy tin foil in the connector, I could just bend it around
with my fingers. It was immediately obvious it was inferior, and
was non UL. But please has anyone actually had an issue in the
thousands of connections all of us Wrenches have made over the
past 15 years? <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/19 10:25 AM, Jason Szumlanski
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ridiculously expensive. Enphase should really look into
alternatives. If you noticed, Wrenches were recommending
other brands and I know many installers use cheap MC4
crimpers pickup up on Amazon. In fact, I have never known
another installer near me using an MC brand tool since the
early days when that is all that really existed. I wouldn't
call it a prohibitively expense, but when one tool makes up
over 25% of a truck's core tool box cost, something is
wrong. Maybe I'm missing something and these other tools use
dies that are acceptable, but it sounds like we are being
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:32
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">The Field
Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the
following crimping tools for use with the connectors:<span
style="font-size:12pt"> Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100,
-19100, or -22100. That tool is required for
meeting our reliability requirements and compliance
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RE-wrenches <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">I
have the </span><span
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neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Rennsteig
now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since it's
not the exact specified model in the Enphase
instructions. There are all kinds of knock offs
for under <span
class="gmail-m_2705916732386134501x_money">$50</span> and
I have found a couple that seem to work
extremely well, but again I'm not sure if it
violates the listing to do so. </span><br>
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<div>Jason Szumlanski<br>
Principal Solar Designer<br>
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Jason<br>
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Talk to Bryan at PV cables <br>
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707-923-3000<br>
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He\u2019s got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and
the MFG tool for just under $300<br>
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Jay<br>
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Peltz power. <br>
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> On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason
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> Is there a reasonably priced alternative to
the Multi-Contact PV-CZM-##100 models? These are
the only ones specified in the quick install
guide. Obviously I don't want to violate the
listing, but I also don't want to spend $500 for
a tool for each truck.
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