<div dir="ltr">Couldn't agree with you more. When I got involved back in November 18' I did just that and spoke to the North American team while they were at the home factory over in Europe. They stated that they hoped to have full UL approval sometime in 2019. I could feel my eyes rolling in my head as I thought back on SMA's claim to provide us with a Sunny Island 240vac 60 hz unit. The joke is on us as when is the last time any of the manufactures actually listened to us out in the trenches. LOL! Good to know Alan has landed on his feet as I'll miss him from the M team.<div><br></div><div>Christopher</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:31 PM Tump <<a href="mailto:tump@swnl.net">tump@swnl.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><font color="#000000">As installers, look at their product line and if we are looking for products that we are able to use AND have support, then we should contact the folks at Victron E and let them know that they are loosing market share to lesser quality products and get their products UL listed. </font><div><font color="#000000">Good tech support and well thought out products.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><a href="mailto:asantosbuch@victronenergy.com" target="_blank">asantosbuch@victronenergy.com</a> Alan is formerly from Magnum but moved to a better quality product. T</font><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Chris Schaefer <<a href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com" target="_blank">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_5886977761903407712Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Just finished consulting on a large island project in North America where the client purchased the Victron system prior to my involvement. Sadly Victron has yet to receive UL approval for use in our neck of the world. So beware.<div><br></div><div>Christopher</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 4:50 PM Tump <<a href="mailto:tump@swnl.net" target="_blank">tump@swnl.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Check out the Victron Quattro inverters w/ a 10k inverter w/100 pass thru relay. they also have some really well thought out BMS for use w/ their LiFeP04 batteries and monitoring equipment.<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 8, 2019, at 3:49 PM, August Goers <<a href="mailto:august@luminalt.com" target="_blank">august@luminalt.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_5886977761903407712gmail-m_-23677903414594403Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Wrenches,<div><br></div><div>We have a new potential client who wants a 60 kW PV system and a battery backup system with 200 kWh of storage. The system will be grid tied and the client insists on some sort of lithium battery technology and doesn't want Tesla. For such a ridiculously large system, what kind of equipment would you recommend? I'm thinking maybe Sunny Islands with Blue Ion LiFePO4 batteries?</div><div><br></div><div>Best, August<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_5886977761903407712gmail-m_-23677903414594403gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">August Goers</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Luminalt Energy Corporation</span></p><p><br></p><div> <br class="gmail-m_5886977761903407712gmail-m_-23677903414594403webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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