<p>There are dozens of SCP vids. Just do a search on youtube. Once you learn the basics it really is very simple. I keep an SCP in my tool bag but the combox is far easier for me to commision or troubleshoot a system and it will log any weird problems that a system may have. Very few do! I picked the newest vid and there are better one I am sure.</p>
<p>https://www.schneider-electric.us/en/faqs/FA323474/</p>
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<p>On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 11:56:58 -0800, Jay <jay.peltz@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><br />On Nov 18, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Howie Michaelson <<a href="mailto:Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com">Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<div dir="auto">It took me years to try Trace/Xantrex/Schneider products after swearing off Xantrex in 2004, becoming an Outback devotee for a decade. I finally soured on Outback a few years ago after several years of poor customer service and a sense that Outback was not keeping up in general. I had tried Magnum early on and had a bad experience with them and the Sunny Island, while a robust machine, was definitely getting outdated, so I finally decided to give Schneider a try.</div>
<div dir="auto">While there are always things I wish could be better in all the various choices (which is true for the XW as well), I've stuck with Schneider for a few years now and have been happy with them. I did try the SWa couple of times, but the small cost savings doesn't feel worth the lesser capabilities over the XW. And their customer service has been pretty consistently good.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 10:43 AM <<a href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org" rel="noreferrer">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a> wrote:</div>
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<div>It seems like Outback has too many problems now, with the Mate 3 and the discontinuation of the original, excellent FX inverters. I had a Mate 3 loose its programming on an AC coupled system so that the batteries had no protective relay until the Mate 3 was reprogrammed. Tech support said that this happens with the Mate 3. That is unacceptable. Fortunately it was a dual FX system, and I had the original Mate to put back on it. </div>
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<div>How do the Xantrex / Schneider products compare regarding reliability and user friendliness? Are there any downsides to using this equipment. I'm considering going full circle back to this line. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi william</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Fortunately or unfortunately there is no reliable web at the location but someone who manually checks things. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes the 3s still has some of the same problems </div>
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<div dir="ltr"><br />On Nov 16, 2018, at 2:14 PM, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I have problems with all of my Mate3 and 3s controllers locking up. So much so that I have implemented the following steps:</span></p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span>1.<span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">For most installations I leave the hub wire cover off and label the Mate lead. Clients are instructed to unplug and re-plug the Cat5 lead whenever the Mate locks up.</span></p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span>2.<span style="font: 7pt 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">On one installation I have a Control By Web unit ping both Mate3 units every 5 minutes. If either fails to respond after 3 attempts, a relay opens and closes the Orange/white leads which power cycles the Mates. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial,'sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Locking up of Mates is a fact of life with Outback equipment. I love the equipment and I hate the equipment.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,'sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,'sans-serif';"> RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Lones Tuss<br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, November 16, 2018 12:42 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> RE-wrenches<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking</span></p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Hello All</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Hello Jay</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">I just asked the tech support boss on this as I had no idea.</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">He has a test setup that allows him to switch individuals lines on the cat5 cables.</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">We can duplicate Jay's screen shot below by opening the some of the lines to the cat 5 cable.</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">So as a start try replacing the cat5 between the Mate3S and the Hub.</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Using the silicone grease that comes with a Mate is never a bad idea.</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">If your customer does not have a cable on hand I would try removing the cable several times perhaps that could help to dislodge any corrosion or dust on the connections.</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">I hope this helps.</p>
<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Take Care All</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:05 AM</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Subject: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">HI All,</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">I'm wondering if anyone else is having mate 3s locking up problems?</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">I've got 2 systems that have had this happen.</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">One is a big system ( 2 radians and 5 CC). Of course its a long ways away and no there isn't internet so no OpticsRE.</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">Its been reprogramed with latest REV firmware. No change.</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">thx</p>
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<p class="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226MsoPlainText">peltz power</p>
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