<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Well,<div class="">I have been considering retrying XW\u2019s. I too dropped Xantrex over a decade a go. I had a good run for a while with a hundred or two, FX\u2019s, then a high frequency of failures and poor customer service led to me to Magnum and probably a hundred relatively problem free systems and then suddenly a high failure rate a few years ago. The last few years have seen me mixing it up, between Radians and Magnum systems with so many troubles that I\u2019ve moved away from AE work and only do a half dozen systems a year. I tell my customers up front, \u201cthe equipment nowadays is crap, and I don\u2019t warranty it" This summer was a mess. I had two different Magnum systems turn on generators, run for two minutes, turn off for two minutes, for months! They were unattended systems with no possible communication. Magnum insisted it was the Atkinson Mini\u2019s causing the problems, and after a summer of driving back and forth to these remote sites and swapping parts, someone fessed up that the AGS modules were the problem. My last Mate 3S lock up problem (one of way too many) happened after it started a generator. Again, unattended system, the generator had run for 1,200 hours, during the sunny summer. It started on exercise and never shut off. I suppose I could insist on a Satellite internet connection, but I don\u2019t want to be a babysitter. </div><div class="">Michael</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 19, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" class="">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">The SCP does not have extensive logging and can't tell you too much. With Combox you can specify dozens of logs and the screen shot would tell you why the genset did not start. There is improved xanbus firmware to help with the limitations of the network. Once it is working I have found it very reliable. I require the combox for my clients even if they do not use it. The new Conext Gateway brings the whole system up to date with wifi communication.</p><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I have simple XW power systems with the same firmware that came with the gear back 2007. Sorry, but very little experience with either Outback or Schneider in grid-tie<span id="cid:smiley-wink.gif@sti.net"><smiley-wink.gif></span></p><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><pre style="font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><strong class=""><span class="">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre><p style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:22:32 -0800, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" class="">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 811px;" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Friends:</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">We installed XW systems up until a few years ago and had problems similar to those with Outback but subtly different. Here is a short list of some of our complaints:</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span class=""><span class="">1.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span class="">We have problems with the XW system communicating with the outboard/optional Automatic Generator Start modules. At one point we were told that the factory supplied cables were too short and causing "ringing" of the data signals. We changed out the leads to the prescribed 6' leads and we are still battling intermittent communications problems with the AGS units. When the AGS does not communicate, the generator does not start when needed. The net result is power outages.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span class=""><span class="">2.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span class="">Schneider created frequent firmware upgrades. To my mind, this is a sign of half-baked code. The firmware update process requires an expensive AC powered dongle and an outboard AC source since the inverters shut down during firmware upgrade. Upgrading firmware on an XW system was usually a multi-hour affair.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span class=""><span class="">3.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span class="">Navigating the SCP is not at all intuitive, in my view.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span class=""><span class="">4.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span class="">The Power Distribution Panel is inadequately sized. This is not unique to Schneider, by any means. For system with more than two inverters we outsourced input and output AC distribution to outboard QO load centers. The busing of the AC breakers is via odd, claw-like bus bars. These are a bit awkward to work with and did not fit every scenario.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span class=""><span class="">5.<span class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span class="">The XW system had no means to bypass more than two inverters.</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">To illustrate these problems, see this<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/MillerSolar/Portfolio/Commercial/KG/KG_System.html" class="">web-page</a>.</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Due to these problems we decided to concentrate on Outback and learning how to navigate the short-comings of just one brand. Not having worked with XW system for a while, I am curious: Have these problems been resolved?</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Thanks in advance.</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">William Miller</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span id="cid:43cb2526ad6b00c660df6d86a2335609@sti.net"><image003.jpg></span><br class="">Lic 773985<br class=""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" class=""><span style="color: blue;" class="">millersolar.com</span></a><br class="">805-438-5600</span></p></div><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong>Jay<br class=""><strong class="">Sent:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:57 AM<br class=""><strong class="">To:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br class=""><strong class="">Subject:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking</span></p></div></div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Does Schneider have videos of how to operate the SCP etc?</p></div><div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Jay</p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Peltz power. </p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br class="">On Nov 18, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Howie Michaelson <<a href="mailto:Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com" class="">Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Drake,</p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">It took me years to try Trace/Xantrex/Schneider products after swearing off Xantrex in 2004, becoming an Outback devotee for a decade. I finally soured on Outback a few years ago after several years of poor customer service and a sense that Outback was not keeping up in general. I had tried Magnum early on and had a bad experience with them and the Sunny Island, while a robust machine, was definitely getting outdated, so I finally decided to give Schneider a try.</p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">While there are always things I wish could be better in all the various choices (which is true for the XW as well), I've stuck with Schneider for a few years now and have been happy with them. I did try the SWa couple of times, but the small cost savings doesn't feel worth the lesser capabilities over the XW. And their customer service has been pretty consistently good.</p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Howie Michaelson</p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Sun Catcher</p></div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 10:43 AM <<a href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org" class="">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">It seems like Outback has too many problems now, with the Mate 3 and the discontinuation of the original, excellent FX inverters. I had a Mate 3 loose its programming on an AC coupled system so that the batteries had no protective relay until the Mate 3 was reprogrammed. Tech support said that this happens with the Mate 3. That is unacceptable. Fortunately it was a dual FX system, and I had the original Mate to put back on it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">How do the Xantrex / Schneider products compare regarding reliability and user friendliness? Are there any downsides to using this equipment. I'm considering going full circle back to this line.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Thanks,</span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Drake<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----</span></p><div id="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226origionalMessageFromField" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">From:</span></strong></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">"RE-wrenches" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>></span></p></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div id="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226origionalMessageToField" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">To:</span></strong></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" class="">william@millersolar.com</a>>, "RE-wrenches" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>></span></p><div id="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226origionalMessageSentField" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Cc:</span></strong></p></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Sent:</span></strong></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:39:26 -0800</span></p><div id="m_-1013691863204981431m_-4633564531477624226origionalMessageSubjectField" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Subject:</span></strong></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Re: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking<br class=""><br class=""></span></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Hi william</span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Very tech fix with the relay!</span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Fortunately or unfortunately there is no reliable web at the location but someone who manually checks things. </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Yes the 3s still has some of the same problems </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Thx</span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Jay</span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Peltz power. </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><br class="">On Nov 16, 2018, at 2:14 PM, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com" class="">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Jay:</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">I have problems with all of my Mate3 and 3s controllers locking up. So much so that I have implemented the following steps:</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msolistparagraph"><span class="">1.</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="">For most installations I leave the hub wire cover off and label the Mate lead. Clients are instructed to unplug and re-plug the Cat5 lead whenever the Mate locks up.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""></span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msolistparagraph"><span class="">2.</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="">On one installation I have a Control By Web unit ping both Mate3 units every 5 minutes. If either fails to respond after 3 attempts, a relay opens and closes the Orange/white leads which power cycles the Mates. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""></span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Locking up of Mates is a fact of life with Outback equipment. I love the equipment and I hate the equipment.</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">William</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><br class="">Lic 773985<br class=""><a href="http://www.millersolar.com/" class="">millersolar.com</a><br class="">805-438-5600</span></p></div><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong>Lones Tuss<br class=""><strong class="">Sent:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 16, 2018 12:42 PM<br class=""><strong class="">To:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br class=""><strong class="">Subject:</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking</span></p></div></div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Hello All</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">And<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Hello Jay</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">I just asked the tech support boss on this as I had no idea.</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">He has a test setup that allows him to switch individuals lines on the cat5 cables.</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">We can duplicate Jay's screen shot below by opening the some of the lines to the cat 5 cable.</span></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">So as a start try replacing the cat5 between the Mate3S and the Hub.</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Using the silicone grease that comes with a Mate is never a bad idea.</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">If your customer does not have a cable on hand I would try removing the cable several times perhaps that could help to dislodge any corrosion or dust on the connections.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">I hope this helps.</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Take Care All</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">-----Original Message-----</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">From: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> On Behalf Of jay</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:05 AM</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>></span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Subject: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. ** ________________________________</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">HI All,</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">I'm wondering if anyone else is having mate 3s locking up problems?</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">I've got 2 systems that have had this happen.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">One is a big system ( 2 radians and 5 CC). Of course its a long ways away and no there isn't internet so no OpticsRE.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Its been reprogramed with latest REV firmware. No change.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">thx</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">jay</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">peltz power</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">_______________________________________________</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">List sponsored by Redwood Alliance</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" class="">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Change listserver email address & settings:</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" class="">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html" class="">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">List rules & etiquette:</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" class="">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Check out or update participant bios:</span></p><p class="m-1013691863204981431m-4633564531477624226msoplaintext"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/" class="">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; 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