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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I too have been perplexed on the art of conduit bending. One of my favorite master electricians in CO suggested that I go online & get a DVD & book with tips & calcs that he makes available to his apprentices.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Relatively cheap compared to experimenting/guessing - time & a pile of odd-looking material attempts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>It was completely worth the $100+/- I spent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I checked on Amazon & it looked like it was there still there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Conduit Bending Program with DVD AND Bending Charts Book Supplement \u2013 2016 <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I am still learning but it\u2019s lots easier.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>C - 208.721.7003 dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>NABCEP # 051112-136 </span><a href="http://www.solarwork.biz"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:blue'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>toddcory@finestplanet.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2018 2:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Conduit Bending<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;overflow-wrap: break-word'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><br><br>On Friday, November 2, 2018 12:40pm, "Michael Morningstar" <</span><a href="mailto:mjmorningstar@gmail.com"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>mjmorningstar@gmail.com</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>> said:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=SafeStyles1541192018><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>William, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>When one is doing a lot of bending of rigid conduit, where the finished length of pipe needs to be determined, after all bends are made, and threading happens first due to bends interfering with the threading machine, one develops a DOPE sheet. The term being borrowed from long distance marksmanship, Data On Previous Engagements. One bends scrap pipe to various angles, and by making marks where the bender makes contact with both stub marks, and the 45 degree and saddle marks, a cheat sheet can be developed to help with arriving at desired stub lengths and calculating \u201cshrink\u201d, the amount that a length of pipe shortens after bends are made. Similarly a DOPE sheet can be made, or trigonometry can be used when making concentric bends and segmented bending. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>That was the world I inhabited for a decade and a half. Now days, if I get into that situation, bend and cut : )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>On Nov 2, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Ray <</span><a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>ray@solarray.com</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I usually do the bend and cut method, because it really is faster and EMT is cheap. Look how much time you are already cooking doing research and exploring various apps, etc? I too have wanted to be the cool pro, and bend to exact measurements, but alas, the sun is setting much sooner now, and I need to get the job done. Also, I recently picked up a nifty reamer attachment that chucks up in a cordless drill and finishes the cut end nicely. Between that and my porta band saw, the bend and cut method is faster and the finished job is just as good. Actually I just switched to Metal Clad 6-3 for my PV runs, and it seems better as well. <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I look forward to hearing what other more accomplished conduit smiths have to offer, though.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=moz-signature style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 11/2/18 12:18 PM, William Miller wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Colleagues:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am always trying to improve my conduit bending skills. I came upon this scenario and need some input: <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am bending stubs at less than 90 degrees. How do I calculate stub heights at less than 90 degrees? I am using the old bend-it-longer-and-cut-it-to-length method but that does not suit my personal style. I want to make a mark, bend from it and have it fit.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I have searched on line and purchased several IOS apps for conduit bending. None of my research has turned up an answer.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks in advance for any advice.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>William</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> 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