<p>Outback said at SPI today they have shipped more than a dozen. The Schneider mppt-80-600 starts at 180vdc BTW.</p>
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<p>On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:38:13 -0700, Bradley Bassett <bbassett2@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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<div>A more recent spec sheet shows the MPPT window starting at 200v instead of 250v, which is a significant improvement.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:41 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">AEE had a training course webinar. The screenshot is from them and they<br /> say October...<br /> <br /> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:49:10 -0700, Jay <<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /> > Hi all<br /> > <br /> > What is the news on the skybox? <br /> > <br /> > Last I checked it was still MIA<br /> > <br /> > Jay<br /> > <br /> > <br /> > <br /> >> On Sep 25, 2018, at 9:13 AM, Jeff Clearwater<br /> >> <<a href="mailto:jeffc@villagepowerdesign.com">jeffc@villagepowerdesign.com</a>> wrote:<br /> >> <br /> >> Hi Dave and All. <br /> >> <br /> >> Reasons for HV batteries off grid? <br /> >> <br /> >> 1) Smaller cable size (I just did an 18 Kw off grid with 4 SIs and the<br /> >> cable costs alone were in the order of $400) and increased flexibility<br /> >> locating batteries and inverter. 10 AWG plug and play.<br /> >> <br /> >> 2) Higher efficiencies. Easy integration on the DC bus.<br /> >> <br /> >> 3) Integration with GTBB battery tech and systems. Why have two<br /> >> standards and two sets of equipment? The line between Off Grid and<br /> GTBB<br /> >> will blur as more GT customers want more storage and more Off-grid<br /> >> customers want the option of grid hookup at some point. For<br /> developing<br /> >> countries as off grid micro grids grow they can merge.<br /> >> <br /> >> 4). Integration with Electric Vehicles as storage for either GTBB or<br /> >> Off-Grid - can integrate on the DC bus seamlessly.<br /> >> <br /> >> These are the reasons that seem obvious to me. I'd be surprised if the<br /> >> manufacturers are not thinking this way. Though you may be right as I<br /> was<br /> >> surprised that Outback went 48V with the Skybox. And it's been a hard<br /> >> sell to get SMA to support US off-grid. If the equipment could do both<br /> >> seamlessly they would have more market.<br /> >> <br /> >> And High Voltage safety is not really an issue with proper (standard<br /> >> electrician) training and as the only electrician or customer interface<br /> >> is a plug or set of small non-energized terminals. Having high voltage<br /> DC<br /> >> in you car is more dangerous. House fires are caused by amperage leaks<br /> >> (much higher in Low V) (and shorted PB-acid) way more than voltage<br /> leaks.<br /> >><br /> >> <br /> >> I'm off to SPI. I'll ask them . . From what I understand Pika is<br /> heading<br /> >> that direction. I imagine Powerwall too if they ever decide to support<br /> >> off-grid.<br /> >> <br /> >> Best<br /> >> <br /> >> Jeff<br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> >> <br /> > _______________________________________________<br /> > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br /> > <br /> > List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br /> > <br /> > Change listserver email address & settings:<br /> > <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br /> > <br /> > List-Archive:<br /> ><br /> <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br /> > <br /> > List rules & etiquette:<br /> > <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br /> > <br /> > Check out or update participant bios:<br /> > <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br /> <br /> -- <br /> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar<br /> "we go where powerlines don't"<br /> <a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/">http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/</a><br /> e-mail <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a><br /> text 209 813 0060_______________________________________________<br /> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br /> <br /> List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br /> <br /> Change listserver email address & settings:<br /> <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br /> <br /> List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><br /> <br /> List rules & etiquette:<br /> <a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br /> <br /> Check out or update participant bios:<br /> <a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br /> </blockquote>
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