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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Jeff \u2013 There likely will be no generator controls built into the SBS. It can act as a load to charge batteries if generator is present and within spec for the grid-tied inverter (SBS), and if the generator
is shut off manually (or externally to the SBS), then with the ABU accessory, the SBS can become a grid former. But it will not have the auto start/stop ability and the parameters for warm up/cool down times and exercise time limits for a generator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I hear you about the SI \u2013 I do feel it is the smartest, most capable device we sell. But as it is a small fraction of our sales, resources are allocated to make sure that our grid tied inverters can meet
all of the utility grid support requirements (CA Ruel 21 phase 1, HECO Rule 14H, ISO-NE) and working to integrate SunSpec Rapid Shutdown transmitters to allow grid-tied string inverters to compete in a cost effective manner in resi and commercial segments
in North America and otherwise. That is just a much larger market.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Clearwater<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2018 10:04 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi all,<br>
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Yes the history of SMA missing the boat with supporting off-grid in the U.S. goes way back to the John B. and Sam V. days - they really tried going way back to the 90s. Germany would just not prioritize it.<br>
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I was one of the early beta testers of the SI - it's by far the best system out there - if only they would offer a split-phase.<br>
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Now the game is to see who gets to really supporting high-voltage Li WITH off-grid support of generators as well as grid-tie sell-back. Outback and Pika - game on!
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I sure wish SMA were in the running! - we'll see with the SBS but probably no generator support right Mike?<br>
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What can we do to get the message through Mike? Okay I'm probably dreaming.<br>
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For what it's worth,<br>
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Jeff<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">That being said, SMA is loosing a lot of sales by not having a split phase Sunny Island on the market. It would be my unit of choice for many application that I have gone with other brands.
The price of a pair of SIs is often just not competitive.<br>
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At 12:25 AM 9/21/2018, you wrote:<br>
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Tump - You are right about the large number of times that has been asked, and I wish I had a happy answer.<br>
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However, with all the work on Sunny Boy Storage and Sunny Central Storage (and even a Tripower storage), resources to develop and test a split phase Sunny Island are not available. There is active work on updating the communications to support SMAā\u20ac\u2122s Ethernet
based communications. Still, this may be months out.<br>
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With the Smartformer being discontinued, the MidNite MNX-240 is the recommended part to create 240 split phase from one Sunny Island.<br>
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Best regards \u2013 <br>
Mike<br>
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<re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tump<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:01 PM<br>
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I bet Mike could retire from the industry if he had a nickel for every time he was asked for/about that. Iā\u20ac\u2122ve asked Santa for years\u2026\u2026 \u20ac¦ still waiting. T<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Chris Schaefer <<a href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a> > wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hey Michael from SMA, any chance we can finally get an 240vac SI here in the states?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Christopher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Harry Mahon <<a href="mailto:Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com"> Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Marco \u2013 <<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I will need to ask for information about the BYD availability. Once those units have all required listings/certifications and are available in US, they should be
ready to use with SBS. The CANBUS comms to the BMS has already been vetted, and they are on the SMA Approved battery list already. But I will get confirmation on the immediate usability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best regards \u2013
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Can you tell us please when the SS will actually be able to integrate the BYD battery platform in the north American market?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Monday, September 17, 2018, Harry Mahon <<a href="mailto:Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com"> Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Marco and all \u2013 yes that is the correct spec ssheet for the BYD batteries that will work with Sunny Boy Storage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">SMA strongly would recommend the Sunny Island for off-grid in general and certainly whole home backup. See the attached from Home Power April/May 2011; quad stack
of SIs acting as UPS for the home \u2013 just charging batteries when grid is prresent, powering home with batteries/PV when grid is gone. A dual split phase cluster is almost 24,000 W continuous (!) capability and can handle crazy power factor loads with no issues.
Built in generator functions and two relay positions per Sunny Island allow for lots of redundancy and fail-safe load shedding to be built in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The Sunny Boy Storage (SBS) is designed to be a grid-tied inverter to allow higher self consumption of local PV power. Even with the ABU to allow off grid operation
(grid forming on its AC outputs rather than just on the dedicated 120VAC Secure Power Supply outlet), there can be a several second delay in the switch from grid power to microgrid as the ABU must signal the Sunny Boy Storage that it has disconnected from
the grid and that it is safe for the SBS to form a grid on its output terminals. Also be aware that there is no master-slave configuration ability with the SBS ā\u20ac\u201c they will always assume they are acting independently on their energy meter input information.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Attached is the spec sheet on the BYD battery in question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Iā\u20ac\u2122ve confirmed with SMA directly that thereā\u20ac\u2122s no capability for the Sunny Storage design (S.S., ABU and battery) to use a generator input. My apologies for mis-stating
earlier that it could accommodate a generator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">As far as grid-tie with batteries, the Holy Grail as far as Iā\u20ac\u2122m concerned is being able to provide whole house back-up and not have to do the old fashioned and
pain in the arse critical load sub-panel. The more choices that weā\u20ac\u2122re provided, the more better. So Iā\u20ac\u2122m pleased that companies like SMA, Ensync, SolarEdge and others are bringing new equipment and designs to market to allow for whole house back-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">From: RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of jay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">HI Harry,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The battery is charged from the AC side correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">And is the charging algorithm inside the ABU.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">If so why couldnā\u20ac\u2122t you use a generator to charge the battery?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Harry Mahon <<a href="mailto:Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com"> Michael.Mahon@sma-america.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Marco \u2013
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The Sunny Boy Storage ā\u20ac\u0153Advanced Backup Unitā\u20ac accessory or ABU will be discussed at SPI in a couple weeks \u2013 first units are being stockeed now at our warehouses
in US. The ABU will allow the SBS to be a grid former in case of utility outage, however there are no plans to have any generator inputs/controls to allow for battery charging from generat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">And yes, BYD BBox HV 5.12/7.68/10.24 devices will be supported when available in US (will be this year I understand)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">The SMA Sunny Storage looks<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">promising.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">It will be able to work with the LGC RESU10 HV battery and,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">sooner rather<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">than later I hope, BYD package as<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">And it will allow for a backup generator tie<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Ta-dah!<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">On Thursday, September 13, 2018, Bruce Erickson<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> Hi<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Marco,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> I partially agree with you. I recently bid Outback,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">StorEdge, and<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Pika<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> options for a GTBB customer, partly to understand pricing<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">for myself, and<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> found OB to be so much more expensive. The customer really<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">wanted a system<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> that would be to be able to charge the batteries off a<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">generator in an<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> outage, understandably. But the extra thousands in cost for<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">OB ended up<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> being prohibitive. Add-on rapid shutdown is a killer. So<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">heā\u20ac\u2122s opting for<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">a<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> nice modern high voltage DC system, with optimizers and<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">built-in RSD, but<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> when thereā\u20ac\u2122s an extended outage, heā\u20ac\u2122ll have to hope the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">sun comes out<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">right<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> after the storm to recharge the batteries, or heā\u20ac\u2122ll end<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">up in the dark<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> again, until the grid comes back. Maybe thereā\u20ac\u2122s a high<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">voltage inverter<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> that allows generator charging, or a third-party battery<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">charger, that<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Iā\u20ac\u2122m<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">> not aware of. Otherwise high voltage systems are very<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">limited for<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">backup,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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