<p>I recently finished an install with the Iron Edison of Colorado. The install was with their LFP 48v 400AH 20KWH battery. Here is a link below. They are plug and play with Schneider, others also?, and have a 16 year design life with better prices than Blue Ion. They also make the 30 year life NIFE (edison) battery. Nice to be able to buy them from the manufacturer in CO.</p>
<p>https://ironedison.com/48-volt-lithium-battery-for-solar</p>
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<p>On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:26:53 -1000, "Marco Mangelsdorf" <marco@pvthawaii.com> wrote:</p>
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