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<div>Blomberg appliances offer full size AC fridges using 1.2A for the smaller unit to 1.9A full size. Both have freezers. LED interior lightning and use R600 which is alcohol. My clients LOVE these units and my batteries based systems do too!
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<div dir="auto" class="">I know this isn't what Will is looking for, but just in case anyone still needs a 12/24vdc model frig, I got an ARB 60 qt at the beginning of the summer, and it's been a champ. Especially for mobile applications, it doesn't need to
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<div dir="auto" class="">Temp setable from zero up, I'm using it as a frig set at 33 degrees F. It's been in a hot van running all summer, using about 100 to 150 watthrs per day, less than rated, pulls about 3 amps at 12 volts. I tested out deep freeze mode
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efficiency, initial purchase cost and system requirements, it became pretty obvious that the Sunfrost was an overpriced option that had too many problems. For half the cost we bought a Vestfrost and then simply added a bit more generating capacity to our
array at far less than the difference in cost between the Vestfrost and the Sunfrost. It was the best decision on appliances we ever made. The 120 vac Vestfrost was a bit less efficient but since we were generating our own power that difference was irrelevant
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