<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It\u2019s also worth mentioning SunDanzer; they has upright AC & DC fridges, plus chest models. David Bergeron is very responsive & helpful.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While I agree w/ the advice for most people to go conventional & AC, there is still a place for Sun Frost-like products. My SF RF-12 is still running from 1984, & a SunDanzer freezer for at least 10 years now. DC can still make sense in specific applications, & then, some of us still don\u2019t have an always-on inverter\u2026 ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ian<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 9, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Rebekah Hren <<a href="mailto:rebekah.hren@gmail.com" class="">rebekah.hren@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I know this isn't what Will is looking for, but just in case anyone still needs a 12/24vdc model frig, I got an ARB 60 qt at the beginning of the summer, and it's been a champ. Especially for mobile applications, it doesn't need to be level. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><a href="http://store.arbusa.com/Fridges-C11.aspx" class="">http://store.arbusa.com/Fridges-C11.aspx</a></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Temp setable from zero up, I'm using it as a frig set at 33 degrees F. It's been in a hot van running all summer, using about 100 to 150 watthrs per day, less than rated, pulls about 3 amps at 12 volts. I tested out deep freeze mode and it was closer to 400 wh/day, but starting with hot water and freezing it solid. I really like the design of the ARB too. It's got good dimensions for food and beverages. 90 beers! </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I've got a 24v Novakool at home that's been running solid for about 15 years. But when it putters off for good I'm replacing it with an ARB...</div><div dir="auto" class="">Rebekah</div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, Sep 9, 2018, 3:29 PM Dana <<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">dana@solarwork.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_1142883109909821341m_-4519441432442176922WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Our last off grid ref was an LG @ 512 KWHR/year and the latest ref is an LG<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">/icemaker [wahoo] @ 520 KWHR/year.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Freezers are: Sears chest freezer with 2\u201d of pink board foam glued to the top & a 16 CuFt Sunfrost 24 VDC on an Iota power supply.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#002060" class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------------<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">C - 208.721.7003 <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">dana@solarwork.com</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">NABCEP # 051112-136 <a href="http://www.solarwork.biz/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:blue" class="">www.solarwork.biz</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class="">"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><u class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b class=""><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green" class="">P</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green" class="">Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b class="">From:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Tom at wagonmaker<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Saturday, September 08, 2018 11:26 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Almost 25 years ago, when we built our off grid home, we looked at the limited options then available one of which was the Sunfrost. After looking into things like relative efficiency, initial purchase cost and system requirements, it became pretty obvious that the Sunfrost was an overpriced option that had too many problems. For half the cost we bought a Vestfrost and then simply added a bit more generating capacity to our array at far less than the difference in cost between the Vestfrost and the Sunfrost. It was the best decision on appliances we ever made. The 120 vac Vestfrost was a bit less efficient but since we were generating our own power that difference was irrelevant as the cost to provide the necessary capacity to handle the efficiency difference actually resulted in us saving money and also gaining a very reliable appliance.<br class=""><br class="">That was then and the Vestfrost was massively more efficient than the standard refrigerators then available. Now, that model of Vestfrost is nowhere near as efficient as the newest Energy Star compliant refrigerators available at most appliance stores. Don\u2019t waste time or money searching for another DC refrigerator, there simply isn\u2019t any benefit. It will be cheaper to buy off the shelf and if you have to add a bit of generating capacity getting another panel on your system will be way cheaper than than it was for us back in the day...and back then it was still the better option.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Tom<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> Will White <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> Saturday, September 8, 2018 3:20 PM<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> RE-wrenches <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:whitesmoke"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello Off-grid Wrenches,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">After 10+ years my Wife is finally sick of our Sunfrost RF-12. We'd like to upgrade to something a little more modern that doesn't leak water all over the floor when it's humid<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">For you off-grid installers what's your go to refrigerator recommendation? I'm going to go through the energy star website but I thought I'd consult with the experts too. I'd like to find something that has a form factor similar to the Sunfrost although I know that's going to be hard to find.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Thanks,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Will White<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">-- <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Will White</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Curriculum Developer<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><img border="0" width="420" height="52" style="width:4.375in;height:.5416in" id="m_1142883109909821341m_-4519441432442176922_x0000_i1025" src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=12H3Cu2gnX7TKTeETn1WsYqa8cp6gsEj1&revid=0B7yAwArWHgPbNzhGK00wT0diY1c1NWhlRlNocDRVd045eTFjPQ" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">e: <a href="mailto:will@solarenergy.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">will@solarenergy.org</a> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">w: <a href="http://www.solarenergy.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:#1155cc" class="">www.solarenergy.org</span></a> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">p: 802-272-3092<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">PV Installation Professional<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""># 093006-34<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666" class="">FACT: If we covered 0.33% of the earth with solar panels, we could power the world with renewable energy.</span></i><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666" class="">Do you envision a world powered by renewable energy? 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