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<p>Yep, I wouldn't even consider roof mounts 15 years ago. Fall
danger, leaks, I'm an electrician not a roof jockey.... Of
course the mounts, racking, etc have improved vastly, and now I
have a substantial ladder collection. I still prefer a good ol'
pole mount for installation, I just can't justify them as much
anymore. <br>
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<p>And as far as the yard art aspect of trackers: they are indeed
fun to watch. All day long the sun would pop out from behind the
clouds, and then you run watch the tracker catch back up. I use
to have trackers that were making power at 5:30 am, very exciting
as well, but just not that practical. After replacing the third
drive motor in 5 years, I started manually setting them to be
fixed arrays. They used to be fairly sensitive to lightning, I'm
sure they're better now.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/7/18 5:56 AM, RE Ellison wrote:<br>
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<div>Amazing what the difference of $10.00 a watt to a $1.00 a
watt for panels makes in the design !</div>
<div>Still don\u2019t like poking holes in a perfectly good roof !</div>
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<div>Just another set of random thoughts,</div>
<div>Bob Ellison</div>
<div><br>
On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:12 AM, Ray <<a
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<p>Allan;</p>
<p>That's the same math I've done, and tracking off grid just
doesn't pencil much of the time There is software that can
model tracking vs fixed. If you run these calcs and pay
attention to the critical winter months, its just not
there. Also even when tracking might be a consideration,
most people do not have a dawn to dusk perfect solar window,
so shading starts reducing the benefits as well. I found it
hard enough to not shade a fixed array, so tracking is
certainly not adding much in a tight valley with trees. <br>
</p>
<p> Its funny how my designs have shifted from tracking back
in the 80s and 90s, to fixed pole mounts set due south with
adjustable tilt, to now I'm running PV Watts and seeing that
roof mounts at imperfect tilt and azimuth can still have the
most energy for the money: Just add more modules.<br>
</p>
<p>That's funny too, because if you had shown me a roof array
like that 20 years ago, I would have been poo pooing it for
days.(That's not even close to south!!...) Our racking and
tracking choices have changed significantly now that PV is
under $1/ watt. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/6/18 9:06 PM, Allan Sindelar
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<div>What am I missing here, Bill? If the tracker costs
$10,000 (plus installation) to carry 24 modules, that's
$416 per module, which is more than the cost of the
modules themselves. I don't get the point of doing this.
It almost sounds like consumer vanity - "<span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Folks
do like to watch the slow dance of the modules".</span> </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">How can tracking be justified?</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Allan Sindelar
<div>Sindelar Solar<br>
<div>505 780-2738</div>
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On Sep 6, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Bill Hennessy <<a
href="mailto:bill@berkssolar.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bill@berkssolar.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15078"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15103">Chris--</span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15104"><span><br>
</span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15105"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153">We
installed two 24-module AllEarth dual-axis
trackers at the request of a homeowner two years
ago--"I like companies that are from Vermont."</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_16604"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153">inspite
of a higher cost as compared to a ground mount
equivalent w Krinner groundscrews.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_17252"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_17395"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153">You can
buy either the tracker alone or complete kits. The
24-module tracker is about $10,000. The concrete
base was fairly easy to install. I think the hole
was 4x4x4 with rebar crosshatch. The frame is
assembled on the ground and lifted to the pole
(you need about a18-foot lift). Our mini excavator
was barely tall enough. We did the frame layout
and assembly on the excavator trailer and it
worked well. If you go to Vermont, they have a
free two-day training program where you assemble a
tracker.<br>
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</span></div>
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_16925"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153">One of
the trackers had an early issue with a stuck
hydraulic valve. Warranty service was prompt and
knowledgeable and we haven't had issues since. We
did have to upsize the Fronius inverters. My
design mistake. I typically oversize the array to
the inverter, but in the spring, the arrays were
always clipping. <br>
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</span></div>
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_18706"><span
id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15153">Folks
do like to watch the slow dance of the modules.<br>
</span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_18293"><span></span></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_18760"> </div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1536263145630_15241">Bill
Hennessy<br>
Berks Solar, LLC<br>
371 Centennial Rd<br>
Mertztown, PA 19539<br>
<br>
o 610 682 4300<br>
c 484 560 4666<br>
NABCEP certified installer<br>
PA contractor #44411<br>
<a href="http://www.berkssolar.com"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hi
Folks:<span style=""> </span>I
appreciate the input but I am
looking for TYPES of trackers that
you may be selling (and yes, I
told him about adding more &
cheaper solar modules than
investing in a tracker, but it\u2019s
the customer\u2019s decision).<span
style=""> </span><span
class="yiv8033290025SpellE">Zomeworks</span>
is not what the client wants; I
would prefer dual axis; the
customer\u2019s in north central CA
with a good resource.<span
style=""> </span>I say go with
Array Technologies but I would
think there must be something new
and improved by now.</span></font></div>
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<b><span
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Behalf Of </span></b>Dana<br
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<b><span
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[RE-wrenches] Trackers</span></div>
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second this observation.</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;">I now
live again off grid in a narrow
N-S canyon in south central
Idaho. Having limited ground
space [thanks to county regs]
& not wanting roof mounted
arrays to have to clear snow
from, trackers VS. fix top of
pole mounts enhance my output
& they reduced the # of
modules required for my homes
projected load design.</span></font></div>
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size="4" color="black"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;">6400
watts rated output on 2 Array
Tech tracking arrays. Fixed
would have required 3 arrays
& 6-8 more modules.
Trackers are programed to full
vertical in winter to shed
overnight snow dumps, this
saves time & effort in the
morning when it\u2019s a Powder
day! Can\u2019t miss those Powder
mornings. </span></font></li>
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size="4" color="black"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;">5400
watts per hour in the summer
when hot.</span></font></li>
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size="4" color="black"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;">Up
to 8400 watts per hour on a
cold winter day. Exactly what
I needed 31+% additional
output with a 4-hour window of
sun at New Year\u2019s Day. So far,
my generator has never
started\u2026</span></font></li>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;">*A
repeat from a previous RE
conversation years ago, I had to
see for myself &:</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"><font
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style="font-size:14.0pt;">Last
house in CO, I had [6] 250-watt
mod on a tracker & [6]
250-watt mod on a fixed roof
array.</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"><font
face="Century Gothic" size="4"
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style="font-size:14.0pt;">The
tracker consistently outproduced
the fixed array by 32% averaged
over the year.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"><font
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style="font-size:14.0pt;">Trackers
have their place and advantages.
That said, with todays $/watt o
modules if you have the space
fixed is a more cost-effective
way to proceed.</span></font></div>
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- A 25-year tracker advocate.</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers</div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">Seen
it first hand with existing
Northeast offgrid clients
that had old pole mounts
with lots of generator usage
during the winter months.
Added a single 12 module DAT
and generator usage was down
to as little as twice in the
entire winter. Others usage
was down to just a handful
of times required from
genny. They are great at
shedding snow. Bottom line
is generator usage was cut
in most cases by 75% or
better. I'm a believer here
in upstate NY.</span></font></div>
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</span></font><i><font
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color="#1f497d"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;">Tel/Fax
585-229-2083 or Cell
585-748-1870 <br
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</span></font></i><i><font
face="Arial" size="2"
color="#1f497d"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;">5115
South Hill Road ~
Canandaigua New York 14424<br
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E-mail: </span></font></i><i><font
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style="color:#1155CC;">chris@solarandwindfx.com</span></font></a></span></font></i><font
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align="center"><font
face="Arial" size="2"
color="black"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;">Thomas
Jefferson, the author of our
great Constitution, once
said, "democracy" will cease
to exist when you take away
from those who are willing
to work and give to those
who would not."</span></font><font
size="3"><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">On
Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:37
AM, Andrew Truitt <<a
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">These
guys are new but
I've heard good
things: <a
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style="font-size:9.5pt;">Andrew Truitt | <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
target="_blank" href="http://dr.ventures/" moz-do-not-send="true"><font
color="#073763"><span style="color:#073763;">DRV</span></font></a></span></font></b><font
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style="font-size:9.5pt;">d: 202.486.7507</span></font><font face="Arial"
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ID: 032407-66</span></font><font
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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600132</span></font><font
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"Don't get me
wrong: I love
nuclear
energy! It's
just that I
prefer fusion
to fission.
And it just so
happens that
there's an
enormous
fusion reactor
safely banked
a few million
miles from us.
It delivers
more than we
could ever use
in just about
8 minutes. And
it's
wireless!"<br
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~William
McDonough</span></font></div>
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">On
Wed, Sep 5, 2018
at 9:38 PM
Sindelar Solar
<<a
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:Allan@sindelarsolar.com"
target="_blank"
href="mailto:Allan@sindelarsolar.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font
face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">Bill,</span></font></div>
<div
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font
face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">No,
I'm with you on
this.Given the
the greatest
boost (~+/- 30%)
of daily
tracking is
during the
summer and most
stand-alone
applications are
winter-peak
(where tracking
adds at best
10-15%),
seasonal water
pumping is about
the only time
when small-scale
tracking is
justified over
simply adding
array. Any
pumping where
the source is
slow enough that
the length of
the day becomes
an important
factor, like
drip irrigation
or a very low
yield well or
spring, is worth
looking into.
But that's about
it in my
experience. </span></font></div>
<div
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font
face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">Allan</span></font></div>
<div
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face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">--
</span></font></div>
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<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><b><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold;">Allan
Sindelar</span></font></b><br
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<a
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a><br
clear="none">
NABCEP Certified
PV Installation
Professional<br
clear="none">
New Mexico EE98J
Journeyman
Electrician<br
clear="none">
Founder
(Retired),
Positive Energy,
Inc<span
class="yiv8033290025m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006grame">.</span><br
clear="none">
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">505
780-2738 cell</span></b></div>
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">On
9/5/2018 5:53
PM, <a
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:solar1online@charter.net"
target="_blank" href="mailto:solar1online@charter.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">solar1online@charter.net</a>
wrote:</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">Chris,</span></font></div>
</div>
<div>
<div
class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">I
thought since
solar PV
prices have
come down
(understatement),
is it not more
cost effective
to buy more
modules than a
tracker? Are
there
scenarios that
the above
would not ring
true? (As I
remember, off
grid water
pumping for
livestock
ponds may
still be an
exception as
also, limited
space.) Please
advise.</span></font></div>
</div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thanks,</span></font></div>
</div>
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<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">Bill
Loesch</span></font></div>
</div>
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<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">Solar
1 - Saint
Louis Solar</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;">314
631 1094</span></font></div>
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face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">----------------------------------------</span></font></div>
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style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;"><font
face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:chris@OasisMontana.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:chris@OasisMontana.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">chris@OasisMontana.com</a><br
clear="none">
Sent:
Wednesday
September 5
2018 3:45:25PM</span></font></div>
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<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear
people:</span></font></div>
<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">What
trackers are <span
class="yiv8033290025m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006spelle">y\u2019all</span>
using
nowadays? I
have a
customer (with
a great site)
who\u2019s
insisting on a
pair. We\u2019ve
sold <span
class="yiv8033290025m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006spelle">Zomeworks</span>
and Array
Technologies
in the past,
but I know
there are more
offerings now.</span></font></div>
<div
class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">Thanks
for the input!</span></font></div>
<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">Chris
Daum</span></font></div>
<div
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style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">Oasis
Montana Inc.</span></font></div>
<div
class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">406-777-4309
or 4321</span></font></div>
<div
class="yiv8033290025MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">406-777-4309
fax</span></font></div>
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