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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I second this observation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>I now live again off grid in a narrow N-S canyon in south central Idaho. Having limited ground space [thanks to county regs] & not wanting roof mounted arrays to have to clear snow from, trackers VS. fix top of pole mounts enhance my output & they reduced the # of modules required for my homes projected load design.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif'>6400 watts rated output on 2 Array Tech tracking arrays. Fixed would have required 3 arrays & 6-8 more modules. Trackers are programed to full vertical in winter to shed overnight snow dumps, this saves time & effort in the morning when it\u2019s a Powder day! Can\u2019t miss those Powder mornings. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif'>5400 watts per hour in the summer when hot.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif'>Up to 8400 watts per hour on a cold winter day. Exactly what I needed 31+% additional output with a 4-hour window of sun at New Year\u2019s Day. So far, my generator has never started\u2026<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>*A repeat from a previous RE conversation years ago, I had to see for myself &:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Last house in CO, I had [6] 250-watt mod on a tracker & [6] 250-watt mod on a fixed roof array.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>The tracker consistently outproduced the fixed array by 32% averaged over the year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Trackers have their place and advantages. That said, with todays $/watt o modules if you have the space fixed is a more cost-effective way to proceed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Signed - A 25-year tracker advocate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>C - 208.721.7003 dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>NABCEP # 051112-136 <a href="http://www.solarwork.biz"><span style='color:blue'>www.solarwork.biz</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Schaefer<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>To All,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Seen it first hand with existing Northeast offgrid clients that had old pole mounts with lots of generator usage during the winter months. Added a single 12 module DAT and generator usage was down to as little as twice in the entire winter. Others usage was down to just a handful of times required from genny. They are great at shedding snow. Bottom line is generator usage was cut in most cases by 75% or better. I'm a believer here in upstate NY.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Christopher<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center;background:white;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chris Schaefer\u2019s<br></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.solarandwindfx.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.5pt;color:#1155CC;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=200 height=40 style='width:2.0833in;height:.4166in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.solarandwindfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Solar-Wind-FX-Logo.png"></span></a><br></span><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 <br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424<br><a href="http://www.solarandwindfx.com/" target="_blank">www.solarandwindfx.com</a> ~ E-mail: </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>chris@solarandwindfx.com</span></a></span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center;background:white;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=200 height=56 style='width:2.0833in;height:.5833in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://solarandwindfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/certs.jpg"></span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center;background:white;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:37 AM, Andrew Truitt <<a href="mailto:atruitt@gmail.com" target="_blank">atruitt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>These guys are new but I've heard good things: <a href="http://www.sulasindustries.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sulasindustries.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#404040'><br>Regards, </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#444444'>Andrew Truitt | <a href="http://dr.ventures/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#073763'>DRV</span></a></span></b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#444444'>www.dr.ventures</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#444444'>d: 202.486.7507</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#999999'>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional ID: 032407-66</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#999999'>Colorado Journeyman Electrician License No.: 600132</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br>"Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!"<br><br>~William McDonough<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:38 PM Sindelar Solar <<a href="mailto:Allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">Allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p style='margin-left:.5in'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'>No, I'm with you on this.Given the the greatest boost (~+/- 30%) of daily tracking is during the summer and most stand-alone applications are winter-peak (where tracking adds at best 10-15%), seasonal water pumping is about the only time when small-scale tracking is justified over simply adding array. Any pumping where the source is slow enough that the length of the day becomes an important factor, like drip irrigation or a very low yield well or spring, is worth looking into. But that's about it in my experience. <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><a href="mailto:allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">allan@sindelarsolar.com</a><br>NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc<span class=m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006grame>.</span><br><b>505 780-2738 cell</b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 9/5/2018 5:53 PM, <a href="mailto:solar1online@charter.net" target="_blank">solar1online@charter.net</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I thought since solar PV prices have come down (understatement), is it not more cost effective to buy more modules than a tracker? Are there scenarios that the above would not ring true? (As I remember, off grid water pumping for livestock ponds may still be an exception as also, limited space.) Please advise.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Bill Loesch<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>314 631 1094<o:p></o:p></p></div><p style='margin-left:.5in'>----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>From: <a href="mailto:chris@OasisMontana.com" target="_blank">chris@OasisMontana.com</a><br>Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear people:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>What trackers are <span class=m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006spelle>y\u2019all</span> using nowadays? I have a customer (with a great site) who\u2019s insisting on a pair. We\u2019ve sold <span class=m-4951966347317992251m204016623455697006spelle>Zomeworks</span> and Array Technologies in the past, but I know there are more offerings now.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for the input!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chris Daum</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Oasis Montana Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>406-777-4309 or 4321</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>406-777-4309 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