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<p>I agree with Bill & Allan on this, I worked on my first
Zomeworks tracker in '89. Trackers add quite a bit of cost and
complication, and if they have a failure, they can actually be
worse than a fixed array. The Array Tech trackers would table top
in failure mode, which is not good in the winter in snow country.
Meanwhile Zomeworks had to be tied in place to not blow around in
the wind and often be manually reset from a western tilt on the
following morning. Just check most old Zomeworks systems, they
usually have a rope tied back to the pole because they lost their
Freon. <br>
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<p>Besides water pumping, another appropriate use of tracking is on
large GT systems, that benefit from TOU rates. The late afternoon
tracking can help utilities meet the summertime peak air
conditioning loads. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/18 9:37 PM, Sindelar Solar
wrote:<br>
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<p>Bill,<br>
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<p>No, I'm with you on this.Given the the greatest boost (~+/-
30%) of daily tracking is during the summer and most stand-alone
applications are winter-peak (where tracking adds at best
10-15%), seasonal water pumping is about the only time when
small-scale tracking is justified over simply adding array. Any
pumping where the source is slow enough that the length of the
day becomes an important factor, like drip irrigation or a very
low yield well or spring, is worth looking into. But that's
about it in my experience. </p>
<p>Allan<br>
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<p>-- <br>
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Professional<br>
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/2018 5:53 PM, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:solar1online@charter.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">solar1online@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
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<div>Chris,</div>
<div>I thought since solar PV prices have come down
(understatement), is it not more cost effective to buy
more modules than a tracker? Are there scenarios that the
above would not ring true? (As I remember, off grid water
pumping for livestock ponds may still be an exception as
also, limited space.) Please advise.<br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Bill Loesch</div>
<div>Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar<br>
</div>
<div>314 631 1094<br>
</div>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:chris@OasisMontana.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">chris@OasisMontana.com</a><br>
Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM<br>
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font-size: small;"><span
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New Roman"">What trackers are <span
class="SpellE">y\u2019all</span> using nowadays?<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I have a
customer (with a great site) who\u2019s insisting on a
pair.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We\u2019ve
sold <span class="SpellE">Zomeworks</span> and
Array Technologies in the past, but I know there
are more offerings now.</span></span></p>
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