<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>A follow up question to all of this:</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone know what parameters a BMS is using to determine SOC for lithium?</div><div><br></div><div>A project I installed uses the Orion BMS jr &nbsp;for lithium batteries. &nbsp;It uses a normal shunt, voltage and also measures internal cell resistance to determine SOC.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Jay</div><div>Peltz Power</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Howie Michaelson &lt;<a href="mailto:Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com">Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Allan, have you talked directly with Bogart?</div><div>Howie<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:56 PM Sindelar Solar &lt;<a href="mailto:Allan@sindelarsolar.com" target="_blank">Allan@sindelarsolar.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Wrenches,<br>
    I&nbsp; would like to broaden this topic a bit, please: we're currently
    installing our first Blue Ion LFP set (48kWh). I work almost
    exclusively with existing off grid systems, often older systems most
    of which have TriMetric monitors, either the TM2020 or newer TM2030.
    Has anyone successfully reprogrammed a TriMet to accurately register
    SOC and other data with LFP batteries? If so can you provide some
    guidance as to program settings?<br>
    Thank you, <br>
    Allan<br>
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        <div>The batteries are Blue Ion 2.0 from Blue Planet Energy, the
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          Maximum&nbsp;Discharge Rate is 1C.</div>
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                        <div>Lou Russo</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:27 AM Jay &lt;<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com" target="_blank">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>&gt;
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              <div>Hi Lou,</div>
              <div>Can you tell us which LFP batteries? &nbsp;</div>
              <div>And what rates of discharge/charge?</div>
              <div>Jay</div>
              <div>Peltz power.&nbsp;</div>
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                On Aug 17, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Lou Russo &lt;<a href="mailto:lou@spreesolarsystems.com" target="_blank">lou@spreesolarsystems.com</a>&gt;
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                      <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Does anybody have any insight in getting the SOC to report accurately on the Outback FNDC when using batteries that have a minimal voltage curve? I have several systems with LFP batteries that have both a eGauge (communicating directly with the battery BMU) and a FNDC and I get wildly different SOCs. In a typical &nbsp;24 hour period (12am-12am) I get SOCs on the FNDC that vary 2% to 34% of what the battery BMUs are reporting. I am assuming that the BMUs are reporting accurately. I would think a 1%-5% difference would be acceptable.</span></p>
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