<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Is this for the charge controller or the inverter? Is it on
grid or off grid? What is the temperature variation in the room?
<br>
</p>
<p>I usually don't worry about a temp sensor on the inverter off
grid, if the batteries are not seeing a big variation in
temperature. Since the inverter isn't used much for charging,
except when the battery is low, I set the inverter charge voltage
fairly high, and tell the customer to just use the generator to
get up to 70% - 80%, then let the solar do the rest. In this
scenario the temp sensor really isn't coming into play. <br>
</p>
<p>However, If its an on grid backup system where the inverter is
involved with charging on a daily basis, then yes, the temp sensor
is important, again only if the battery room is seeing more than a
20 degree variation. Also the temp sensor wires can be repaired:
cut out the bad section and use outdoor rated telephone splices
with the silicone sealant, and heat shrink over that.<br>
</p>
<p>As others mentioned, using the wrong sensor is going to cause way
more trouble than its going to fix. They have different
resistance values and some have reverse logic from others. I've
seen faulty temp sensors literally cook batteries, so if you're
not absolutely sure, don't connect it.<br>
</p>
<p>I have a few old Trace sensors, but there only going to a system
that really needs them. Contact me off list.<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/5/18 7:01 AM, Chris Schaefer
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAFOvL0ZkbPiEnR6xCht3kpFtTvmD9rEqfOvGXJr+MpfWy+btYQ@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<div dir="ltr">It's a dual labeled 1997-2002 vintage Xantrex/Trace
unit and the old BTS is yellow with an RJ-11 connector.
Upgrading the client to a new bank of Surrettes and in order to
be warranty compliant the system must have a BTS. So what have
the older, wiser wrenches done for a replacement?
<span
style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Does
anyone have one of these lying around that I could purchase?
I'll contact Xantrex/Schneider on Monday to see if they are
still available since they do still sell the C60 CC and
perhaps the newer BTS are compatible.</span>
<div><span
style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Thanks,</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Christopher</span></div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Dave
Angelini Offgrid Solar <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>What color wire? The old Xantrex SW & SW+ were
yellow. I can't remember the color of the Trace
anymore... --Dave </p>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5">
<p> </p>
<blockquote type="cite"
style="padding-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px
solid;margin-left:5px;width:100%">
<div dir="auto">Bill the BTS are generally
different.
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">You definitely don't want
interchange BTS's... If you use a Midnite sensor
with an Outback itll appear as a very hot battery
and the charger won't charge. </div>
<div dir="auto"> </div>
<div dir="auto">There are just differance between
the varistor that is potted for most companies. </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Aug 4, 2018, 6:25 PM <<a
href="mailto:solar1online@charter.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">solar1online@charter.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Fellow wrenches,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Am I missing something? Other than the way
the sensor connects to the inverter/CC/??? is
this not simply a thermistor/other discrete
component with the appropriate output? Yes, it
is potted for preservation in the potentially
acid vapor environment, and provided with glue
when the attachment is other than the terminal
and again, the connector is specific to each
manufacturer. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks for your input,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Bill Loesch</div>
<div>Solar 1</div>
<div>Saint Louis, MO</div>
<div>314 631 1094</div>
<br>
<div
class="m_-7307387475722430143m_-1175771379665223062reply-new-signature"> </div>
<p>------------------------------<wbr>-----------</p>
From: "Chris Schaefer" <span
style="text-decoration:underline"></span><br>
To: "re-wrenches"<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Saturday August 4 2018 4:04:47PM<br>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] battery temp sensors for
older Trace/Xantrex inverters<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Good Day All,
<div> </div>
<div>Running into a lot of missing or chewed
up battery temp sensors for the older Trace
inverters. I'm looking for potential
replacements. Anyone had any luck using
another vendor or do you have a direct
replacement source for these?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Christopher- <br>
<div
class="m_-7307387475722430143m_-1175771379665223062gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<p style="text-align:center"><span
style="font-size:10pt;color:#1f497d"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Chris
Schaefer's<br>
</span></span><a
style="font-size:12.8px"
href="http:www.solarandwindfx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><img
style="color:#1f497d;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"
src="cid:part3.C029D64C.64BF4F90@solarray.com"
alt="image" class=""
width="200" height="40"></a><br>
<em><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Tel/Fax
585-229-2083 or Cell
585-748-1870 </span><span
style="font-size:12px"><br>
</span></span></em><em
style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><span
style="color:#1f497d"><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua
New York 14424<br>
</span></span></span></em><em
style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><a
href="http://www.solarandwindfx.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:blue">www.solarandwindfx.com</span></a>
~ E-mail: <span
style="color:blue"><a
href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a></span></span></em></p>
<p style="text-align:center"><em><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><img
src="cid:part3.C029D64C.64BF4F90@solarray.com" alt="image" class=""
width="200" height="56"><br>
</span></em></p>
<p style="text-align:center"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">Thomas
Jefferson, the author of our
great Constitution, once
said, "democracy" will cease
to exist when you take away
from those who are willing
to work and give to those
who would not."</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span></div>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br>
<br>
List Address: <a
href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.<wbr>org</a><br>
<br>
Change listserver email address & settings:<br>
<a
href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/<wbr>options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-<wbr>wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List-Archive: <a
href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mail-archive.com/<wbr>re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.<wbr>org/maillist.html</a><br>
<br>
List rules & etiquette:<br>
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.<wbr>htm</a><br>
<br>
Check out or update participant bios:<br>
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div>-- <br>
<pre> </pre>
<pre><strong><span style="font-size:small">Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
<a href="http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://members.sti.net/<wbr>offgridsolar/</a>
e-mail <a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>
text 209 813 0060</span></strong></pre>
</div>
</font></span><br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<br>
<br>
List Address: <a
href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.<wbr>org</a><br>
<br>
Change listserver email address & settings:<br>
<a
href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/<wbr>options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-<wbr>wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List-Archive: <a
href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mail-archive.com/<wbr>re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.<wbr>org/maillist.html</a><br>
<br>
List rules & etiquette:<br>
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.<wbr>htm</a><br>
<br>
Check out or update participant bios:<br>
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<div><br>
</div>
-- <br>
<div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">
<p style="text-align:center"><span
style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif">Chris Schaefer\u2019s<br>
</font></span><a
href="http:www.solarandwindfx.com"
style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><img
src="http://www.solarandwindfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Solar-Wind-FX-Logo.png"
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"
moz-do-not-send="true" width="200" height="40"></a><br>
<i><span
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span
style="font-size:9pt">Tel/Fax
585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 </span><span
style="font-size:12px"><br>
</span></span></i><i style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:10pt"><font color="#1f497d"><font
face="Arial, sans-serif">5115
South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York
14424<br>
</font></font></span></i><i
style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
href="http://www.solarandwindfx.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:blue">www.solarandwindfx.com</span></a>
~ E-mail: <span style="color:blue"><a
href="mailto:chris@solarandwindfx.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chris@solarandwindfx.com</a></span></span></i></p>
<p style="text-align:center"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><img
src="http://solarandwindfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/certs.jpg"
moz-do-not-send="true" width="200"
height="56"><br>
</span></i></p>
<p style="text-align:center"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thomas
Jefferson,
the author of our great Constitution, once said,
"democracy" will
cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give
to those who would not."</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
List Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
Change listserver email address & settings:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a>
List-Archive: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a>
List rules & etiquette:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a>
Check out or update participant bios:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>