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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Interesting idea, but it looks like to service them you would have to lay on your stomach and get your face right in there? Not my idea of a good time!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>-Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='color:windowtext'> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 30, 2018 3:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall crawl space<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Article 110.26 covering clearances in front of electrical equipment applies. I worked on a couple like that, and I didn't like it. Very hard to move the batteries, and Combined with H2S, you are in what OSHA considers a confined hazardous space. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Another way to use that crawl space is to build a trap door access from the floor above. This can work really nicely, and put the batteries right under the inverter without violating article 110.26. I think I saw a system that either Allan Sindelar or Windy Dankoff did like that. I've tried it a few times, and everyone (customers and inspectors) was happy. Here's a pic of some HUPs in a floor vault just below the inverter:<o:p></o:p></p><p><img width=525 height=296 style='width:5.4666in;height:3.0833in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D429B2.EEB2A6B0"><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>Ray Walters<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Remote Solar<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>303 505-8760<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 7/30/18 8:37 AM, Dana wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Safe working clearance is 6\u2019-8\u201d.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I have been confronted with this issue in the past taking over other\u2019s systems care. This is a head banger & a major safety issue if something goes bad. If the batteries are 18-20\u201d tall that only leaves anther 28-30\u201d between bottom side of the floor joist & the top of the battery. Your face is way too close to a battery esp. if there is an issue to address.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>The installation is bent over back-heavy move situation. I am assuming you have a dirt or gravel floor to move across?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>It seems like a good use of space up front but the reality of the install plagues you down the road.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>If it is WLA batteries it is the worst of situations.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Even if this is not inspected, please avoid this situation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>C - 208.721.7003 <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>NABCEP # 051112-136 <a href="http://www.solarwork.biz">www.solarwork.biz</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Caldwell<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall crawl space<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Wrenches,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I have a customer who wants to have batteries installed in a 4' tall crawl space / short basement. Are there any accessibility code issues with installing batteries in a crawl space? Does the NEC address this?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks,<br>Jerry Caldwell</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Redwood Alliance<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Change listserver email address & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out or update participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>