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<p>Never laid on my stomach, I just have kneel pad I use for lots of
stuff but it works good here too. I never get my face that close
to the battery any way. Usually 2 to 3 ft is good.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/1/18 2:21 PM, Glenn Burt wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Interesting
idea, but it looks like to service them you would have to
lay on your stomach and get your face right in there? Not my
idea of a good time!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">-Glenn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"><re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ray<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 30, 2018 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall
crawl space<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Article 110.26 covering clearances in front of electrical
equipment applies. I worked on a couple like that, and I
didn't like it. Very hard to move the batteries, and Combined
with H2S, you are in what OSHA considers a confined hazardous
space. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Another way to use that crawl space is to build a trap door
access from the floor above. This can work really nicely, and
put the batteries right under the inverter without violating
article 110.26. I think I saw a system that either Allan
Sindelar or Windy Dankoff did like that. I've tried it a few
times, and everyone (customers and inspectors) was happy.
Here's a pic of some HUPs in a floor vault just below the
inverter:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><img style="width:5.4666in;height:3.0833in" id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:part1.593B5D5B.E788DD53@solarray.com" class=""
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Safe
working clearance is 6\u2019-8\u201d.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I have
been confronted with this issue in the past taking over
other\u2019s systems care. This is a head banger & a major
safety issue if something goes bad. If the batteries are
18-20\u201d tall that only leaves anther 28-30\u201d between bottom
side of the floor joist & the top of the battery. Your
face is way too close to a battery esp. if there is an
issue to address.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The
installation is bent over back-heavy move situation. I am
assuming you have a dirt or gravel floor to move across?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">It seems
like a good use of space up front but the reality of the
install plagues you down the road.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">If it is
WLA batteries it is the worst of situations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Even if
this is not inspected, please avoid this situation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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RE-wrenches <a
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moz-do-not-send="true"><re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Caldwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Batteries in 4' tall crawl
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I
have a customer who wants to have batteries
installed in a 4' tall crawl space / short
basement. Are there any accessibility code issues
with installing batteries in a crawl space? Does
the NEC address this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Jerry Caldwell</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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