<div dir="auto">Wrenches<div dir="auto">You can still AC couple Outback, they just eliminated tha option because of breaker issues but it can still be done using contactors all set to normally open and configured by DC Voltage. With Outback there is no real limit to battery capasity like you have with both the new SMA sunny boy storage and the Solar Edge, both high voltage and very limited capasity due to battery management abilities. The same way you do load sheding you can do power input reduction control.</div><div dir="auto">Jerry</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 2:30 AM Howie Michaelson <<a href="mailto:Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com">Howie.Michaelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="auto">I've liked the StorEdge design of SolarEdge since it was first introduced a few years ago, but have never done it even seen an instant with it. What are others experience with it, especially compared to AC coupled battery backup solutions?<div dir="auto">Howie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 25, 2018 8:18 PM, "Scot Arey" <<a href="mailto:scot.arey@solarcentex.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">scot.arey@solarcentex.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-973008123471719032m_7416162581728396456quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto" style="direction:ltr;margin:0;padding:0;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">Yes I had also heard from Outback that AC Coupling not supported.<br>
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Larry,<div>I recommend considering retrofitting the SolarEdge \u201cStorEdge\u201d Li-ion battery. It\u2019s a high-voltage battery on the PV side of the inverter. We have a few out there now for a few months without a problem. Really like the design concept of the storage on the PV side, increasing system efficiency.</div><div><br></div><div>We\u2019ve done quite a few AC-coupled systems, which Outback FX, Outback Radian, and SMA Sunny Island/Sunny Boy. The Outbacks require a cutout relay. We won\u2019t do Radian AC-coupling any more, as the setup, documentation, and support is a royal PITA, and have had failures in the \u201cROCB\u201d automatic cutout breaker. Even when the ROCB doesn\u2019t fail, it often cuts out when it isn\u2019t supposed to, like at the start/end of a float cycle. My understanding is that Outback doesn\u2019t support AC-coupling any more with the Radian.<br><div>
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