<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Lead melts at 621.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Plastics melt depending on the type between 212f and 491f ( for the most common ones)</div><div class=""><a href="http://education.seattlepi.com/hot-water-melt-plastic-3626.html" class="">http://education.seattlepi.com/hot-water-melt-plastic-3626.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But melting and being able to be deformed is very different. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">jay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">peltz power<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Chris Worcester <<a href="mailto:chris@solarwindworks.com" class="">chris@solarwindworks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; 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text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(26, 13, 171); text-decoration: none;" class="">Melting point</span></a>: </span></b></span><span class="lrzxr"><span style="font-family: Roboto; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">621.4°F .</span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Chris Worcester<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Starlight Solar Power Systems<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 10, 2018 1:43 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Wrenches, <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Attached is a photo of my first thermal runaway event after 17 years and thousands of battery systems installed. These were in an RV. I checked every charge source and all are within specified charging parameters. No cause found. The owner is a single elderly lady that uses very little power in her RV and spend most of the time on shore power. She reported that the batteries were dead when she unplugged from shore power. This was i the 23rd month after installation. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">After I reported this to my Fullriver distributor, they told me that another set of DC400-6 had melted down just 1 month earlier and that they had fused together just like these. That is extreme heat. It is too peculiar to know of two similar events. This meltdown happened within the 2 year warranty period but my customer could not come back to us for another 3 months beyond the warranty period. Fullriver would not allow anything towards replacement do to the reporting date being grater than 24 months.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I would like to know has anyone else had a similar failure with Rolls or Fullriver AGM batteries, specifically L16 size.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you,<br class=""><br class="">Larry Crutcher<br class="">Starlight Solar Power Systems<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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