<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">Hi Kirpal,</font></span><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">\u201c...8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge\u2026\u201d </font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">I saw that on their website but there is no substantiating data from real cycle life tests. </font></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" class="">When Sony introduced this battery, they claimed 2000 cycles at 80% DoD. For such an extraordinary claim, there must be a catch. Do you have any information about testing or a copy of their warranty?</font></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Larry Crutcher</span><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Starlight Solar Power Systems</span><br style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br class=""><div><div class="">On Feb 19, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Kirpal <<a href="mailto:solarworks@gmail.com" class="">solarworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline" class="">Blue Planet - Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are a good option for off grid and work very well with the Outback Radian inverters. They are rated at 8000 cycles (20+ years of daily cycling!!) to 100 depth of discharge and can be monitored remotely. The batteries , like in the Sonnen system are made by Sony.</span><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" class="">The company was just down in PR doing some installs and had some very good feedback from local installers. </div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" class="">One more option for the tool bag. </div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" class="">Also, Outback just released a white paper on AC coupling using a solid state relay into the Radian. So they are now providing some guidance on this as of just recently. I still prefer DC coupling with grid tied mode when the grid does come back around. </div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sunny Regards,<br class="">Kirpal Khalsa</div><div dir="ltr" class="">Oregon LRT#25<br class="">NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional<br class="">Oregon Solarworks LLC<br class=""><a href="http://www.oregonsolarworks.com/" target="_blank" class="">www.oregonsolarworks.com</a><br class="">541-299-0402</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Ray <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank" class="">ray@solarray.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Greetings Wrenches;<br class="">
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We are designing several systems for Puerto Rico, and while these will eventually could be grid tied once the grid returns, they will need to operate reliably in off grid mode possibly for a year or more. What is everyone's experiences with the Storedge and LG setup? I've worked with the regular Solaredge GT system and was quite impressed, but I've heard the Storedge is not a good off grid option. What are the issues, and has anyone used the Storedge in longer term outages?<br class="">
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Right now we are designing some smaller systems that will use Magnum inverters with 24v and 48 v Li+ batteries from other manufacturers, like Simpliphi and LiFe Blue. ( No GT, Backup only) These are lower cost and allow us to use more traditional off grid designs, but also have limited charge and discharge current. In order to make Li+ cost effective, we have had to reduce the storage size in half compared to lead acid. We feel this is justifiable considering Li+'s ability to be discharged to 100%, its voltage stability, and its higher efficiency.<br class="">
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All feed back is welcome, as we venture into less well charted territory. We just don't want to set up systems that are going to not be functional in 5 to 8 years because of inferior AGM lead acid batteries. We use HUP batteries for most larger off grid systems, but these are not feasible because of their size and maintenance requirements.<br class="">
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Ray Walters<br class="">
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Remote Solar<br class="">
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