<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So why not use one of the garage doors that has a built in backup battery and just charge the built in battery directly?<div class="">Its got all the internals already done?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Install a CC and PV module and you are all done?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">peltz power</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 1, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Jerry Shafer &lt;<a href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com" class="">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">John<br class=""></div>Samlex makes small pure sine wave inverters from 12 to 48 volts and down to 150 watts<br class=""></div>Jerry<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:23 AM, Dana <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank" class="">dana@solarwork.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US" class=""><div class="m_-818877057622188617WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">Wow, this is flash from the past\u2026&nbsp; I had almost forgotten about running DC in a house or garage.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">With todays inverter efficiency\u2019s &amp; costs VS. the cost of proper DC wire sizing, garage lighting?, &amp; having to modify a reliable lift system, etc.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">Is there really a cost savings in the longs run?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">It\u2019s a garage, are you going to need to run any AC tools, battery chargers? <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">I mean it is a potential man cave, really now\u2026.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Century Gothic&quot;,sans-serif;color:#002060" class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">----------------<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">Dana Orzel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<wbr class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Great Solar Works, Inc.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">C - <a href="tel:(208)%20721-7003" value="+12087217003" target="_blank" class="">208.721.7003</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<wbr class="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com" target="_blank" class="">dana@solarwork.com</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">Idaho Contractor - # 028765&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Idaho PV # 028374<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;Century Gothic&quot;, sans-serif;" class="">NABCEP # 051112-136&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<wbr class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sol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