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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Most generators with microprocessor controller have a steady & unavoidable phantom load these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#002060'>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>208.721.7003 dana@solarwork.com<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>NABCEP # 051112-136 www.solarwork.biz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" </span></u><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator choice for Sunny Island<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>What is the standby current draw on this unit. In the past, that has been an issue with Kohler. <br><br>At 06:01 PM 7/10/2017, you wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>All - update for those of you interested, we are starting the portal installation tomorrow (with a Sunny Island for better or worse) and ended up going with a Kohler 14RESA propane generator. This should be 2-wire start, ok at 100% duty cycle 120 v, and CARB compliant. If all goes as planned we'll be up and running next week and I'll keep you posted.<br><br><a href="http://www.kohlergenerators.com/home-generators/products/14RESA">http://www.kohlergenerators.com/home-generators/products/14RESA</a><br><br>-August<br><br><b>August Goers<br></b><br>Luminalt Energy Corporation<br><br>o: 415.641.4000<br><br>m: 415.559.1525<br><br><a href="http://www.luminalt.com">www.luminalt.com</a><br><br> <br><br>On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <<a href="mailto:offgridsolar@sti.net">offgridsolar@sti.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>I did a few projects for Yosemite. Then I used the EU6500i which is now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>the EU7000i. Never had anyone ask. and that you will find is the issue. In<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>my county of Mariposa they will issue a certificate of occupancy on a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>house running a generator for final approval. Pretty lax about it all. If<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>I go across the county line into Tuolumne everything is hard to do. Geeze<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'>an offgrid generator...Use Honda or design so that you don't need one :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'>Dave Angelini / Offgrid Solar<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Hi Gary and All â\u20acâ\u20ac\u0153<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> We looked into the EcoGen unit, but the 6kW is discontinued and the 15kW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> EcoGen is not rated to be sold in California. Bummer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Speaking of California, do any of you know about the CARB compliance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> issues<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> on selecting a generator for an offgrid renewable project? We had one<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> generator rep tell us that only a Tier 4F CARB generators are legal for<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> use<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> with offgrid in California, but I canâ\u20ac\u2122t ¢t find anything online to clarify.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Since this project is in the National Parks, we need to make sure we<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> donâ\u20ac\u2122t<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> > have any compliance issues. If anyone knows anything about what kind of<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> CARB compliance is or isnâ\u20ac\u2122t required, I, Iâ\u20ac\u2122d love to hear about it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> ><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> August<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *From:* RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] *On<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Behalf Of *Gary Willett<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 7:58 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *To:* <a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator choice for Sunny Island<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> AUGUST:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> The Generac EcoGen is dual-fuel capable (NG or LP), comes in 6kW and 15kW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> versions, is 2-wire start, can be field-configured for either 120V or<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> 240V.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> It's not "portable" as it does not have wheels. It's transportable though<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> based on its footprint and weight. Also, it was specifically designed and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> warranteed for off-grid applications.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Gary Willett PE<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Icarus Engineering LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> On 6/16/17 9:36 AM, Kevin Pegg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> You could use a 2 -> 3 wire converter such as the Atkinson GSCM module<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> that<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> will take the 2 wire output from the SI and convert to 3-wire to control a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> gasoline generator such as the Honda EU7000 series, or Cummins/Onan makes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> good line of gasoline generators. It may be very hard to find a gas<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> generator that has 2 wire native remote start. That is more common with<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> larger propane or diesel generators.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Kevin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>>] *On Behalf Of *August Goers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Sent:* June-16-17 7:22 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *To:* RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator choice for Sunny Island<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Thanks for the good feedback folks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> We are using a Sunny Island setup because we had access to a free Sunny<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Island and Sunny Boy being scrapped from another site. Otherwise I was<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> definitely planning on going with a Outback DC coupled system.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> I think the trick here is trying to find a portable generator that has a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> two-wire start option. Iâ\u20ac\u2122m looking throurough the usual genny suppliers and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> nothing has presented itself so far. Anyway, Iâ\u20ac\u2122â\u201e¢ll keep looking and will<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> check out Chrisâ\u20ac\u2122 suggestion on the nexus controtroller and Generac propane<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> unit as well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> FYI, here is a link to what the portal is like. Itâ\u20acââ\u201e¢s going in National<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Park<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> land by the Golden Gate Bridge so I hope we can pull it together!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> <a href="http://www.sharedstudios.com/">http://www.sharedstudios.com/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> August<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Luminalt<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *From:* RE-wrenches [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] *On<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Behalf Of *Chris Mason<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:56 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *To:* RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator choice for Sunny Island<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> To my limited mind, the whole 120V sunny island setup is a disaster. Why<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> not install a DC coupled 8KW Outback Radian and solve all your problems.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> USe any 240V generator, although finding a 2 wire start gasoline unit may<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> be hard. I would use a Nexus controller generac propane generator with<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> propane tank, all mounted on the container. I would never design anything<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> to use gasoline, it's too dangerous.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Matthew Sirum <<a href="mailto:matthewsirum@gmail.com">matthewsirum@gmail.com</a> ><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Greetings August,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Great thoughts and comments from Brian! I would also suggest speaking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> with the generator manufacturers' tech/engineering folks regarding the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> 120VAC configuration and to confirm 2-wire start set up once you have<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> a brand and model or two in mind. Generator parts and service<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> availability in the region of the project may also drive brand<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> selection. If you need to maximize the inverter's battery charging<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> capabilities (depending on battery system charging requirements) you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> may end up needing to look at generators in the 7.5 kW to 8.0 kW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> capacity range to allow for headroom in generator output loading.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Also; I am curious how you arrived at an AC coupled design for this<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> project. I do not know any of the details or specific projects goals<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> you are working with, but I would potentially consider a DC coupled<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> system design... DC/DC charge controller(s) would keep the battery<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> system charged (and any DC loads operable) even if the Sunny Island<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> and/or Sunny Boy(s) have a failure or is taken offline. If most of<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> the AC loads are 120VAC I would consider keeping the inverter AC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> output circuit 120VAC and install a dedicated transformer solely for<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> the 240VAC load.... Or perhaps consider a 120/240VAC inverter model.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Depending on the overall situation a DC coupled system could be more<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> resilient. The dedicated transformer for the 240VAC load could also<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> potentially help make the system more robust. Also; I have spoken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> with a number of folks who have told me they wish the Sunny Island had<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> more/better features for generator integration. I'd like to hear more<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> from those who have plenty of experience designing and installing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> systems with Sunny Islands and generators to learn what the current<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> thoughts and issues are.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> I hope some of these thoughts may be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> ----MATT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Matthew Sirum<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> P.O. 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The loads are mostly 120 volt but there<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> is a 240 volt heat pump that might occasionally run. Weâ\u20ac\u2122re AC coupling<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> > the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Sunny Island with a Sunny Boy PV inverter. So, weâ\u20acâ\u201e\u201e¢ll be installing a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> Outback PSX-240 autoformer to bump the Sunny Islandâ\u20acââ\u201e¢s output from 120 to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> 240 volt.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> We need to select a generator for backup. We need a two-wire electric<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> start<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> (in order to be controlled by the Sunny Island) and preferably a generator<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> that is okay just running 120 volt loads since the Sunny Islands input is<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>> only 120 volt. 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