<div dir="ltr">I wonder how this code will apply to the new SonnenBatterie system, which uses a high-voltage lithium battery bank adapted to an Outback Radian integrated into the cabinet. I'm guessing it will be the same...the user-accessible side will be 48VDC.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Dan Fink</span><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">IREC Certified Instructor\u2122 for: </div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">~ PV Installation Professional</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">~ Small Wind Installer</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Executive Director, Buckville Energy</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers\u2122<br><a href="tel:970.672.4342" value="+19706724342" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">970.672.4342</a></div><br> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Chris Mason <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cometenergysystems@gmail.com" target="_blank">cometenergysystems@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The Powerwall is an integrated product, not a battery you install. There is no user access to the internal voltage. Our Nissan Leaf stores at 500v but it's not restricted for the same reason. There are plenty of commercial UPS products that use very high villages but the user had no access to the internals. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Apr 8, 2016 1:06 AM, "Benn Kilburn" <<a href="mailto:benn@skyfireenergy.com" target="_blank">benn@skyfireenergy.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Wrenches,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Section 64 of the 2015 Canadian Electrical Code covers Renewable Energy Systems.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Rule 64-800(3) states...<br>
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Note the word "for". It appears that this rule may restrict the use of higher voltage lithium ion batteries (PowerWall and similar Panasonic home storage that i've heard of) FOR dwellings regardless of where it is installed (detached or attached garage or even a separate shed)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br>Based on the short text that i've included, does anyone interpret it differently or know of another rule in the CEC that may be a work-around?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">For the NEC'ers... i only have a copy of the 2011 NEC and haven't read it cover to cover yet ;) but is there a similar rule in there regarding storage battery voltage FOR dwellings?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Thanks<br></div><div><div><p style="font-size:13px;margin:0px;padding:1em 0px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px"></p><div style="text-align:left"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Benn Kilburn <span style="font-size:9px"></span></b></div>
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