<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>I'm sure he will use the SW until it dies. I would.&nbsp;</div><div>Never thought of running AC from the 24v side to the dual outbacks to charge the 48 V BB. Would need a xfmr though right?</div><div>I would install a separate Midnite CC for each battery bank. I know the classics output 12v at the aux, so what type of relay could be used? Does it need to be solid state ?</div><div>I would feel better using some type of control, or as was mentioned, maybe talk him into just hooking everything up to the OB system at the house.&nbsp;</div><div>The 24v side would be for occasional use only.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the input!</div><div><br>Jeremy Rodriguez&nbsp;<div>All Solar, Inc.&nbsp;<div>1463 M<br><div>Penrose Colorado 81240</div><div><br></div><div>Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand!</div></div></div></div><div><br>On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:25 AM, "Ray Walters" &lt;<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Hi Jeremy;<br>
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    I usually would combine both buildings all into one system, KISS
    principle, and also less cost. Later when those batteries die,
    replace with a properly sized bank.&nbsp; I also wouldn't be building a
    new system around an SW4024, those are getting really dated. Great
    inverter, but they don't last forever.&nbsp; They have excellent resell
    value on Ebay for folks that need replacements in dual and quad
    systems.<br>
    Having said that, Jerry's idea of 2 controllers on one array sounds
    like it would work, but not with Blue Sky because of the grounding
    as Larry mentioned.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/25/2015 10:36 AM, Larry wrote:<br>
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      Keep in mind that the Midnite controller has a combined PV and
      bat. negative and the Blue Sky requires isolated PV and bat.
      negative.<br>
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Starlight Solar Power Systems
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/15 6:11 PM, Jeremy Rodriguez
        wrote:<br>
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        <div>The thought was to charge the batteries for a new building
          utilizing an SW4024 with new classic controller and new L A
          batteries, and once those batteries are charged send the PV to
          the house system which is the 48v setup with dual outback
          inverters and dual SB3048 CCs. &nbsp;Lead acid batteries as well. 3
          years old&nbsp;</div>
        <div>I've never had this come up in 16 years!</div>
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          Jeremy Rodriguez&nbsp;
          <div>All Solar, Inc.&nbsp;
            <div>1463 M<br>
              <div>Penrose Colorado 81240</div>
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              <div>Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and
                shorthand!</div>
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          On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:31 PM, "Ray Walters" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>&gt;

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            What's the reasoning behind two different battery banks at
            different voltages? What is the other equipment involved:
            batteries type, age, inverters, etc.?<br>
            <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760</pre>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2015 5:07 PM, Jeremy
              Rodriguez wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">It would be 2kw of PV<br>
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                Jeremy<br>
                All Solar<br>
                Penrose, CO<br>
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                  <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:17:20
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                  From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jerrysgarage01@gmail.com">jerrysgarage01@gmail.com</a><br>
                  To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
                  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging Multiple Battery
                  Banks<br>
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                    <div>How big of a system are you looking at as some
                      of the smaller charge controllers are auto sensing<br>
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                    Jerry<br>
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                    <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at
                      12:11 PM, Jeremy Rodriguez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allsolarjeremy@msn.com" target="_blank">allsolarjeremy@msn.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Wrenches,<br>
                            I have a client that wants to charge a 24v
                            battery bank and a 48v bank with the same
                            array. Different charge controllers, with
                            some type of relay is what I was thinking,
                            and using the controller's aux. 12v output
                            for the relay control. <br>
                            The primary battery to be charged would be
                            the 24v bank, then once it is fully charged,
                            divert the pv to the secondary controller at
                            the 48v bank.<br>
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                            Any comments or recommendations on this
                            would be helpful.<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                                Jeremy Rodriguez<br>
                                All Solar Inc. <br>
                                Penrose, CO<br>
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