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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Exactly.&nbsp; That's why I always have a
      load profile for each system on file, and as soon as they're doing
      something different, we're off the hook.&nbsp; It opens the door
      smoothly towards upgrading the system for their new loads.&nbsp;&nbsp; And
      yes a new load profile, until they add even more in 5 years.&nbsp; <br>
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CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
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      On 1/21/2014 10:26 AM, Dan Fink wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I also see lots of "load creep" Ray...."oh, forgot
        to tell you....we need to add some all-night LED area lighting
        to the system. It won't use much power......"
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          <div>Dan Fink<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Ray
            Walters <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank">ray@solarray.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                <div>On these small projects, its very important to nail
                  down the exact load, to keep the pricing sane.&nbsp; I list
                  on the estimate what the system is designed to do; for
                  instance 18 w load 24 hrs/ day.&nbsp; Then if something
                  goes wrong and they are running more than they should
                  you just gently point out that that was not what the
                  system was designed to do.<br>
                  I learned a long time ago, that you can't take name
                  plate power draw numbers, or count on the manufacturer
                  to provide those numbers; you've got to confirm it
                  with your own monitoring equipment.<br>
                  <pre cols="72">R.Ray Walter
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303%20505-8760" value="+13035058760" target="_blank">303 505-8760</a></pre>
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