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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Looks interesting,&nbsp; I've been waiting
      for Li+ to start making sense on larger scales.&nbsp; <br>
      The cycle life does not appear to be better than a HUP lead acid
      battery, despite the claims of "10 times the cycle life of an AGM
      battery"&nbsp; I'm confused because in their white paper they also
      claim: 200 cycles at 100% DOD &lt; 2000 cycles at 80% DOD &gt;
      3000 cycles at 80% DOD.&nbsp; <br>
      What does that mean?<br>
      Also the warranty has 3 yr free replacement, 10 yr prorated, but
      doesn't cover shipping or installation, and also demands an
      engineering evaluation of the installation to allow the warranty.&nbsp;
      Despite their claims of being the most comprehensive warranty in
      the business; it is not.<br>
      My entire power tool collection as well as my computer and phone
      run on Li+, so I'm a believer, but I've also been vetting BS
      claims in our industry for over 2 decades.&nbsp; Corvus needs to put
      more time into some BCI cycle life charts, and provide a warranty
      that covers shipping and installation time like others.&nbsp; Some case
      studies, and independent testing would help as well.<br>
      Anybody have any ball park pricing on this?<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
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      On 9/19/2013 9:58 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote:<br>
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            class="250195403-20092013">These folks are real I've met
            with and touched the product. I've been working on a
            possible use of these but client hasn't said go yet so can't
            quite yet vouch for the product. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff"><span
            class="250195403-20092013">Kevin</span></font></div>
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            face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
            <b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> September 16, 2013 12:58 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Li-I question<br>
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        Wrenches,<br>
        In order to provide accurate information about lithium-ion
        batteries, I'm looking for referrals to current suppliers with
        available product, with specifications and retail pricing
        available. Having read Randy Richmond's article on Li-I in HP153
        earlier this year and Dan Fink's posts here, I understand the
        advantages and limitations. I am just looking for actual
        supplier websites and contacts, please.<br>
        Thank you,<br>
        Allan<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan <span class="SpellE">Sindelar</span></b><br>
              <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><u><span
                      style="COLOR: #000099">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></u></a></span><br>
              <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">NABCEP Certified PV
                Installation Professional <br>
                NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>
                New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
                Founder and Chief Technology Officer<br>
                <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b>, a Certified B <span
                  class="SpellE">Corporation<sup><span style="FONT-SIZE:
                      7.5pt">TM</span></sup></span><br>
                3209 Richards Lane<br>
                Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>
                <b>505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell</b><br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/"
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