<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Generally speaking, I've been using L16s as beginner batteries.. something for folks to learn on. as soon as they do, I push large 2 volt cells. thin plate technology is just not that forgiving. db<br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Dan Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>NABCEP #092907-44</div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s<br>
From: "bob ellison" <<a href="mailto:reellison@gmail.com">reellison@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, October 08, 2012 6:04 pm<br>
To: "'RE-wrenches'" <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I too like the big single cells. I have used many of the Deka 1360 AH 2 volt cells with good results over the years. All as a single string with welded interconnects. The welding is an art but kinda fun to do. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Want to clear out the owner, just light the torch!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have had bad luck with the Deka L-16\u2019s in the same locations as Trojan L-16\u2019s most failed around 3 years. The D series 2 volts are different, and weigh around 230# or so. You can get them in the taller cases to have more room for electrolyte to reduce watering frequency. They are my single cell of choice at this point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What I don\u2019t like about the Trojan L-16 2 volt is the separate cells, all the caps to pull to check and fill, how about a connecting hole to let the electrolyte travel between the cells, would it be that hard?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have no doubt L-16 2 volt with the factory welded connections will <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">outlast an L-16 6 volt<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Good day,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Dan Fink<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 08, 2012 3:29 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tom, big cells are really the way to go, rather than too many parallel battery bank connections. That is for darned sure, Methinks the issue is delivery weight. Was considering a back-of-pickup-truck winch arm thing here not too many years back, and then it all flashed before my eyes.......this SUCKS. We could possibly subcontract the delivery and lifting of 300-400lb plastic-encased chunks of lead and acid, but otherwise I have no desire to enter the health of my back into the equation. Those big heavy batteries sure do work good, though, and last a long time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-- <br>Dan Fink,<br>Executive Director;<br>Otherpower<br>Buckville Energy Consulting<br>Buckville Publications LLC<br>NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers<br>970.672.4342 (voicemail)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Tom Duffy <<a href="mailto:Tom@thesolar.biz" target="_blank">Tom@thesolar.biz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">William<br><br>I have wondered about this as well, why don't they just make a big 1110 AH cell? Which as you point out would be less caps to feed and less chance of cell imbalance as well. I do like 2V cells over 6V but this question bothers me.<br><font color="#888888"><span style="color:#888888"><br><span class="hoenzb">Tom Duffy</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of William Miller<br>Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:59 PM<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s<br><br>Friends:<br><br>Has anyone used the Trojan 2 volt L-16 batteries? They each have 3 cells, I presume in parallel.<br><br>The question presents: Although you can divide the strings by three, there are still an equal number of batteries and cells to maintain and to get out of whack. Will these batteries be equally likely or less likely to have cell imbalances in the future?<br><br><br>The only benefit I see is a reduction in string wiring jumpers.<br><br>Comments?<br><br>Thanks in advance.<br><br>William Miller<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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