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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jesse,<br>
Are you sure that you even want to take this on?<br>
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20' wind tower, 500 watt (rated) machines, four battery strings in
parallel - the design itself has enough weakness, based only on
the scant information that you have provided, that it might not be
a system with which you'd want to get involved. <br>
<br>
Also, some confusion here - are the inverters FX3048T or GTFX3048?
David has assumed the latter, asking about selling, but you are
describing a utility-backup setup, rather than
utility-interactive. Utility backup with only ineffective wind as
the secondary source would indeed increase a utility bill, at
least marginally.<br>
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It sounds as though the system could be performing exactly as
designed.<br>
Allan<br>
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On 8/24/2012 7:26 AM, Jesse Dahl wrote:<br>
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<div>The system only uses grid power to charge batteries, they
have two FX3048T in parallel so I don't think the meter is the
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<div>They did send me a picture of the two wind towers, one is 20
feet off the ground and one is 60 feet off the ground... No wind
would be an understatement. </div>
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:43 AM, David Katz <<a
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</style>Check to see if their meter goes backwards. Some utility meters
actually charge for power when you are selling.<br>
Or maybe they have no wind and a new big flat screen tv that
they leave on all the time.<br>
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback with grid charging<br>
Date: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 11:28 pm<br>
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I got a call from a family today about a system they had
installed recently and they think they have a problem.
They claim their electric bill has just about doubled
since the system has been installed due to outback using
the grid to power the loads instead of the battery bank.
They claim the MATE always shows the system buying the
exact amount as any load on the system draws. Due to the
distance from my shop, I would like to get any ideas on
what could cause this before I drive all the way there. <br>
<br>
What I know about the system:<br>
2 - outback inverters, 48v <br>
2 - whisper 500 wind generators with whisper charge
controllers<br>
16 - MK 12v AGMS (8/inverter)<br>
<br>
I guessing setting, but if anyone has seen this before,
I'd like to narrow it down before the drive. <br>
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Thanks eh!<br>
<br>
Jesse<br>
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