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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have GEC sizing issue and would greatly appreciate any
advice you can share.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We have a small commercial grid-tie system installing on a
facility with a 4000A, 240V, 3Ph service that uses the water main as the Ground
Electrode.&nbsp; My engineer is referencing NEC Table 250.66 (and the 4000A
service entrance cables) to size the GEC from the inverters to the GE, and
therefore is requiring a 3/0 (maximum size required by this table).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Since this is actually a DC GEC, I think it should be sized according
to NEC 690.47(B) which references 250.166.&nbsp; Since the GE is a water main it
seems that 250.166(B) would apply, requiring the GEC &#8220;<i><span
style='font-style:italic'>shall not be smaller than the largest conductor
supplied by the system.&#8221;&nbsp; </span></i>If taken literally, the largest
conductor supplied by the system could be the 4000A service entrance cables,
which would require a GEC even larger than the seemingly excessive 3/0.&nbsp; For
obvious reasons I hesitate to mention this to my engineer, but I in the end I
want to do what is best.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></i></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My questions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></i></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Is my engineer
correct, and we should size the GEC according to 250.66? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.25in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If #1 is no,
and 250.166(B) does apply, is &#8220;the largest conductor supplied by this
system&#8221; the 4000A service entrance cables, and the GEC size should match
these?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Or, since 250.166 is written
     for DC systems, is this &#8220;largest conductor&#8221; the DC source
     circuit conductors (#10 in this case), and therefore the GEC can be a #8
     (smallest size allowed)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thank you in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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