<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Chris, <div><br></div><div>If by "Y'all" you mean me, since that was my comment ;-), I do think the Air X and Breeze are a good product overall. I said "fairly well" as we have seen our share of failures, some right out of the box. But for the volume we have sold and serviced over the last 8 years, I still like them. Many of them are located on the shores of the Sea of Cortez which has a very high salinity. 303's and 403's still come in for service and even though we can't get parts, I open them up. The problems vary; slip rings, brushes and bearings being the most common failures, control boards after that. For comparison, what other small turbine has the same performance/price point? </div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Chris Daum wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="656431615-04042012"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">"<font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman">Historically the Air products have lasted fairly well and
been moderate performers. "? Really? I seem to remember a lot of
SWWP-bashing on this list not so long ago - and apparently deservedly so.
After 15 or so years of selling the 303s, 403s and Air X's, I pretty much gave
up on the product line (including their Whispers) as being unable to last
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry
Crutcher,Starlight Solar Power Systems<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 03, 2012
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<div>SWWP has changed their turbines again. They are now called the the Air 30,
Air 40 and Air Breeze. The 30 is like the old X land, the 40 is like the old
Breeze Land and the Breeze is like the old Breeze Marine. The Breeze
is the only marine model available. Confusing enough? The 40 and Breeze have a
limited lifetime warranty and all have a new, higher price. </div>
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<div>Historically the Air products have lasted fairly well and been moderate
performers. Air X and Air Breeze parts are still available but SWWP has
discontinued support for all other models. We service, sell and recommend them
for small PV/wind hybrid systems. AND...they are still USA made! Hurrah!</div>
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<div>On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Roy Butler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hi Drake,<br><br>The Air 403/ Air-X/ Air
Breeze/ whatever it's name is now, is fairly dependable.<br>In most wind regimes
it's the equivalent of a 10 or 20 watt solar module but<br>seems to work just
fine. FYI- it's ~ 200 watts or so.<br><br>It's not the quietest thing though,
being a fairly high rpm turbine.<br><br>But the Sunforce 600 is not a 600. The
rotor diameter tells the truth, making it<br>somewhere around a 200 - 250 watt
machine. Perhaps they have the bugs worked<br>out but when they first came out,
there were many reliability and performance issues.<br><br>What's the
application for this?<br><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Roy Butler
NABCEP Certified Small Wind Installer
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.four-winds-energy.com/">www.four-winds-energy.com</a>
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