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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Consider having the bracket fabricated
with only the holes that you need, assuming you will use the same
weatherproof box and rails on each job. Having the extra slots and clearance
holes punched will increase the cost. And I would make the material a bit
thicker, theirs is kinda flimsy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Besides Enphase might get testy if you start
copying their bracket. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my 2</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Duncan<BR>North Texas Renewable
Energy<BR>817.917.0527<BR><A
href="mailto:ntrei@1scom.net">ntrei@1scom.net</A><BR>TECL 27398<BR>NABCEP Solar
PV<BR>Certified 031310-57<BR><A
href="http://www.ntrei.com">www.ntrei.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=william@millersolar.com href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">William
Miller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase J-box
brackets</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Maverick:<BR><BR>I am intrigued with the possibility of having
them machined. Do you mind getting a quote? I would be purchasing
somewhere between 25 and 50.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>William<BR><BR><BR>At 11:00
AM 12/18/2011, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">\ufeff <BR><FONT face=arial
color=#0000ff size=2>William,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have two or three spares. One of which I can take to
my machine shop and ask them for a quote. How many do you
want?<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Maverick<BR></FONT> <BR><BR>
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<FONT face=tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [<A
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
eudora="autourl">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>William Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:34
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase
J-box brackets<BR></FONT><BR>Jason:<BR><BR>How do you use 3/8" hardware to
attach a bell box to a module mounting rail? Could you share a picture
of your typical practice?<BR><BR>The standard bell box has small, flimsy
tabs to be installed on opposite corners of the box. Only one of these
tabs would line up with the slot in the rail and the tab is too small to
drill a 3/8" diameter hole. (We have drilled a hole in the back of
these boxes and used hardware with neoprene washers, but this takes up
valuable volume inside the box and is generally not a preferred
method. More importantly, this would not allow the box to be mounted
across the end of the rail, a most advantageous position.)<BR><BR>You may
not be aware that the brackets depicted have holes to allow 8/32 machine
screws in each of the 4 corners of the back of the bell box, making a very
secure connection. The bracket allows mounting a box across the end of
the rail opens many possibilities for conduit routing. A lot of
thought went into the design of these brackets and it is too bad they are no
longer made. Do you have any spares you did not use?<BR><BR>William
Miller<BR><BR><BR>At 07:29 AM 12/18/2011, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Content-class:
urn:content-classes:message<BR>Content-Type:
multipart/alternative;<BR><X-TAB> </X-TAB>boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCBD99.DAC6A840"<BR><BR>Why
not just use 3/8\ufffd hardware in the rail channel to attach the junction
box? Especially if your AHJ allows you to bury the junction box under a
module, this works and looks great. Otherwise, just extend the rail
outside the last module and attach the box there. I never saw the point of
the bracket.<BR> <BR>Jason Szumlanski<BR>Fafco Solar
<BR> <BR> <BR><B>From:</B>
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [<A
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
eudora="autourl">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>JRQ<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:21
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase
J-box brackets<BR> <BR>William,<BR> <BR>I actually prefer to use
Unirac L-brackets for mounting J-boxes. Sometimes I'll use the Enphase one
because it comes with the Enphase whip (and therefore I save paying $2.75
on an extra L-bracket). However, I find the L-brackets to be sturdier and
less visible.<BR> <BR>Jeffrey Quackenbush<BR>NABCEP-certified PV
installer<BR>Ninja Solar<BR> <BR>
<DIV align=center><BR></DIV><B>From:</B> William Miller
<william@millersolar.com><BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday,
December 17, 2011 11:33 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Enphase J-box
brackets<BR><BR>Friends:<BR><BR>Enphase has changed the design of the
brackets they provide to support a j-box. This is a problem because
the new ones are inferior for these reasons:<BR>1. They do not have a hole
adjacent to the back of a mounted box (to the best of our
knowledge). This hole allows for the use of the back hub in a
standard "bell" box.<BR>2. They can not be mounted offset (to see the
benefits and application browse to:<BR><A
href="http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/Technical_Procedures/micro-inverter_wiring/_micro-inverter-wiring.html"
eudora="autourl">http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/Technical_Procedures/micro-inverter_wiring/_micro-inverter-wiring.html</A><BR>3.
They do not accommodate one and two gang bell boxes.<BR><BR>I'd like to
buy a quantity of these brackets. A jpg depiction is attached.
Does anyone have surplus?<BR><BR>Does anyone else miss these enough to
write Enphase and ask that they be reinstated into the
catalog?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance.<BR><BR>William Miller<BR><BR><BR>Miller
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