<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Hi wrenches, I have been informed off list that my system is not a supported configuration, that one <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>phase can be paralelled, but the other two can not, one only on each of the other legs. So unless Outback comes back with more info, I was wrong. (mine still works, it was suggested I am very lucky) </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I have used the Apollo in different configurations, stacked in single phase, but I have not tried 3 phase stacks. Maybe you could conact Apollo. </SPAN></div>
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<DIV><SPAN>Another method is to use the 120 volt VFX 3648, with one master and 14 slaves. (15 total, 5 in paralled on each leg) Check this with Outback as the 3 phase is different now than it was back in 2003. The three phase was the master generated a square wave and each slave would use this to lag either 120 or 240 degrees. For standalone not grid tie. I did a multi inverter on standalone 3 phase. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Also a good source for this might be Julie Haugh <<A href="mailto:jfh@greenhousepc.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jfh@greenhousepc.com">jfh@greenhousepc.com</A>>; She has done a lot of work with Outbacks </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=yiv1098454153hr></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> jay peltz <jay@asis.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, August 12, 2011 1:02 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Large, off grid<BR></FONT><BR>Hi Daryl,<BR><BR>You might look at the new Outback 8kw 120/240v<BR><BR>I know that you can connect up to 10 in parallel, i don't know if you can do it 3 phase however.<BR><BR>jay <BR><BR>peltz power<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Aug
12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, <A href="mailto:penobscotsolar@midmaine.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:penobscotsolar@midmaine.com">penobscotsolar@midmaine.com</A> wrote:<BR><BR>> Hello wrenches,<BR>> We have an opportunity to install a very large (60 kw) off grid system<BR>> in Mexico. It is currently three phase. I do have the option of<BR>> changing out the air conditioners (36 of them) to 120 single phase, but<BR>> it is an added layer of complexity/cost that it would be nice to avoid.<BR>> The largest off grid system I've done is 21 kw so far, and it was<BR>> single phase and fairly straightforward.<BR>> Does anyone know of a three phase, off grid inverter than can be<BR>> paralleled for 500 (possibly 450) amps oputput. I am currently dealing<BR>> with three 120 volt lines (2/0) and a neutral, running to a transformer<BR>> to "clean up" the power from the gennie a bit. The client is
determined<BR>> to do this as he has spent about $500,000.00 USD in diesel over the<BR>> last 5 years.I would very much like to get that transformer out of the<BR>> picture...<BR>> I am well versed in the complexities/pitfalls of battery systems this<BR>> large. I'm planning on using the Surrette YS-31series to minimize the<BR>> footprint, as well as use Water Miser caps and install three separate<BR>> deionizing water systems. My issue is the inverters. I have seen a<BR>> Korean inverter, Sunsine (<A href="http://www.dongeiecos.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.dongeiecos.com/</A>) that is capable<BR>> of this, but I am not sure I want my first install of this inverter to<BR>> be 3000 miles away....<BR>> Anyone?<BR>> <BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Daryl DeJoy<BR>> NABCEP Certified PV installer<BR>> Penobscot Solar Design<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>>
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